[Python-Dev] The pysandbox project is broken

Eli Bendersky eliben at gmail.com
Thu Nov 14 19:28:54 CET 2013


On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 10:27 AM, Brett Cannon <brett at python.org> wrote:

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> On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 1:05 PM, Eli Bendersky <eliben at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 6:58 AM, Brett Cannon <brett at python.org> wrote:
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>>> On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 6:30 AM, Facundo Batista <
>>> facundobatista at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>> On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 4:37 AM, Maciej Fijalkowski <fijall at gmail.com>
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>>>> >> Do you think it would be productive to create an independent Python
>>>> >> compiler, designed with sandboxing in mind from the beginning?
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>>>> > PyPy sandbox does work FYI
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>>>> > It might not do exactly what you want, but it both provides a full
>>>> > python and security.
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>>>> If we have sandboxing using PyPy... what also we need to put Python
>>>> running in the browser? (like javascript, you know)
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>>>> Thanks!
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>>> You can try to get PNaCl to work with Python to get a Python executable
>>> that at least Chrome can run.
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>> Two corrections:
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>> 1. CPython already works with NaCl and PNaCl (there are working patches
>> in naclports to build it)
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> Anything that should be upstreamed?
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>> 2. It can be used outside Chrome as well, using the standalone "sel_ldr"
>> tool that will then allow to run a sandboxed CPython .nexe from the command
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> Sure, but I was just thinking about the "in browser" question Facundo
> asked about.
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FWIW, if you already have Chrome 31, go to:

http://commondatastorage.googleapis.com/nativeclient-mirror/naclports/pepper_33/988/publish/python/pnacl/index.html

This is CPython running on top of PNaCl, at near-native speed. With C
extensions. With threads. It's 2.7.5 but we'll put up 3.4 too soon (anyone
can do it though - based on naclports).

The first load takes a bit of time, afterwards it's cached and
instantaneous.

Now all that's left is for someone to come up with a friendly API to wrap
around the Pepper interface to conveniently access DOM :-)

Eli
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