[Python-Dev] Offtopic: OpenID Providers

Oleg Broytman phd at phdru.name
Thu Sep 5 23:09:24 CEST 2013

On Thu, Sep 05, 2013 at 04:53:18PM -0400, Barry Warsaw <barry at python.org> wrote:
> On Sep 06, 2013, at 12:36 AM, Oleg Broytman wrote:
> >   You cannot login using OpenID to most interesting popular sites.
> >GMail? No. Twitter? No. Facebook? FriendFeed? identi.ca? No, no, no.
> I'd be surprised if you ever saw the big social networking sites support
> OpenID or Persona.  They want to own that space themselves, so probably have
> no business incentive to support 3rd party systems.

   But of course! And that IMO spells the end of the feature. Things
that aren't available for millions seldom are available for a few, and
if they are -- they are available for big price.

> We're open source, and I think it benefits our mission to support open,
> decentralized, and free systems like OpenID and Persona.

   But they also have disadvantages. Implementing such a major feature
is a significant burden to sysadmins and is an additional vein for
security breaches.
   That said, I don't mind if pydotorg would get such features. If FSF
pays salaries and admins are willing to work -- no objections from me.
But I am not going to use it. What gain if I can login to one site?
   I will change my mind when Google and GitHub start using them.

     Oleg Broytman            http://phdru.name/            phd at phdru.name
           Programmers don't die, they just GOSUB without RETURN.

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