[Python-Dev] Revert #12085 fix for __del__ attribute error message

Antoine Pitrou solipsis at pitrou.net
Sun Sep 22 10:19:36 CEST 2013


On Sat, 21 Sep 2013 19:55:05 -0400
Terry Reedy <tjreedy at udel.edu> wrote:
> 
> > In the general case it represents a bug in
> > the code that should be fixed.  Most such errors arise from the vagaries
> > of module finalization (such as your issue 19021),
> 
> Lets call that a buglet ;-). Not really harmful, but annoying.

It's not a buglet. A buggy __del__ method is as much a bug as any other
buggy method. __del__ issues can lead to resources not being properly
finalized and released to the system.

> Accepting 
> that even such buglets 'should' be fixed in the stdllib, so that the 
> message does not appear, is there any reason *not* to make it a 
> RuntimeWarning so that users who care about clean output can filter it 
> out while waiting for us to fix it?

Yes, the reason is that these are real exceptions, not warnings. The
reason the exceptions are not propagated is that they can occur at any
point (finalization is pretty much asynchronous, it can occur from
unrelated places), so propagating them to whatever code happens to
execute at the time would be a huge instability factor.

Making them warnings means they could be silenced depending on the
current warning settings.

Regards

Antoine.




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