[Python-Dev] Revert #12085 fix for __del__ attribute error message

Antoine Pitrou solipsis at pitrou.net
Tue Sep 24 09:34:17 CEST 2013

On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 17:25:10 +1000
Nick Coghlan <ncoghlan at gmail.com> wrote:
> You are setting the bar unreasonably high for an error message that
> has to convey a complex concept in as few words as possible. There is
> *NO* wording that can concisely express the concepts involved without
> resorting to jargon, because the concepts behind it are *complex and
> unintuitive*. The current wording is flat out wrong, because the
> exception isn't being ignored, it's being printed to stderr. If it was
> genuinely being ignored, people wouldn't complain about it.
> Jargon that can be easily looked up with a search engine is greatly
> superior to a message that is simply wrong, as the former provides a
> gateway to understanding, just like coming across a word you don't
> understand when reading a novel.

"Unraisable" is not a word I don't understand, it's a word that I
understand and which conveys the wrong meaning.

If you want something that people won't understand, you can use
something like "asynchronous exception".

> Preferring the status quo because
> you're holding out a forlorn hope for a concise wording that explains:

I've proposed other options.



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