[Python-Dev] [RELEASED] Python 3.4.0b2

Guido van Rossum guido at python.org
Mon Jan 6 16:43:38 CET 2014

Since MSIEXEC.EXE is a legit binary (not coming from our packager) and
Akamai is a legitimate company (MS most likely has an agreement with
them), at this point I would assume that there's something that
MSIEXEC.EXE wants to get from Akamai, which is unintentionally but
harmlessly triggered by the Python install. Could it be checking for

On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 5:29 AM, Bob Hanson <d2mp1a9 at newsguy.com> wrote:
> [For the record: I'm running 32bit Windows XP (Pro) SP2 and
> installing "for all users."]
> TL;DR: No matter what I tried this morning re uninstalling and
> reinstalling 3.4.0b2, pip or no pip, MSI still tried to connect
> to the Akamai URLs.
> On Sun, 05 Jan 2014 23:06:49 -0500, R. David Murray wrote:
>> > Still wondering why, all of a sudden after years of using a
>> > firewalled msiexec.exe, I get it now trying to connect out while
>> > installing 3.4.0b2 from my harddrive...?
>> The ensurepip developers will have to say for sure, but my understanding
>> is that it does *not* go out to the network.  On the other hand, it is
>> conceivable that pip 1.5, unlike the earlier version in Beta1, is doing
>> some sort of "up to date check" that it shouldn't be doing in the
>> ensurepip scenario.
>> I presume you did have the installer install pip.
> To be honest, I forgot all about pip until after I become a wee
> bit alarmed by the installer going out to the interwebs -- didn't
> even notice a checkbox for that option.
>> If you haven't already, You might try reinstalling and unchecking
>> that option, and see if it msiexec still tries to go out to the
>> network.  That would confirm it is ensurepip that is the issue
>> (although that does seem most likely).
> Working again on this, this morning: Uninstalled and then
> reinstalled 3.4.0b2. No check box for pip, but there was that
> strange "tree" of collapsed options which included a pip one and
> which appeared to default to "install pip." Left pip on as was
> the default.
> Curiously, although I hadn't remembered this happening yesterday,
> this morning, the installer said there was already a 3.4x
> installed and do I want to overwrite it. (Uninstalling 3.4.0b2
> had left behind my addition of sympy and another file or two of
> my own from 3.4.0b1.) I told MSI to go ahead and overwrite.
> Sure enough, the installer tried to connect to the same two IPs
> (Akamai I'm now told) with the installer left at default options.
> ---
> Next, I uninstalled 3.4.0b2 again, this time removing the entire
> dir after uninstalling. Reinstalling (still default settings on
> installer) this time gave me a bunch of *new* additions to
> site-packages including pip, setuptools, easy_install.py -- all
> of which were *not* installed into site-packages when priorly
> overinstalling.
> Again, this time, msiexec.exe still attempted to connect (two
> bursts -- each time, twice to each of the aforementioned URLs).
> ---
> Finally, I uninstalled 3.4.0b2, removed the dir, and reinstalled
> yet again, this time selecting the "don't install pip" option in
> the funky Windows "option tree" in the MSI installer.
> Yet *still* again, there were several sets of attempts by
> msiexec.exe to connect to the same two Akamai URLs -- but, no pip
> or other cruft in site-packages nor any pip-things in Scripts
> after the install finished.
> So, whatever I have tried -- pip or no pip -- msiexec.exe still
> attempts to connect to those Akamai URLs.
> [Hopefully, I kept accurate notes this morning and didn't typo
> them above.]
> At any rate, the attempts to connect to the network seem like
> undesirable behavior to this man. If pip is necessary, then some
> Window users may well end up without it -- and then not know why
> something later doesn't work.
> Got to go now, but will check in this evening or in the morning,
> tomorrow.
> Again, many thanks to all for the help --
> Bob Hanson
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