[Python-Dev] str.rreplace

Brett Cannon brett at python.org
Sat Jan 25 00:43:18 CET 2014


On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 6:02 PM, Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy at yahoo.co.uk>wrote:

> On 24/01/2014 22:56, Brian Curtin wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 4:50 PM, Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy at yahoo.co.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 24/01/2014 22:44, Brian Curtin wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 11:40 AM, Mark Lawrence <
>>>> breamoreboy at yahoo.co.uk>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 24/01/2014 17:19, Ram Rachum wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hmm, on one hand I understand the need for the separation between
>>>>>> python-dev and python-list, but on the other hand I don't think
>>>>>> python-list is a good place to discuss Python, the language.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I now looked at the 17 most recent python-list threads. Out of them:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     - 58% are about third-party packages.
>>>>>>     - 17% are off-topic (not even programming related)
>>>>>>     - 11% are 2-vs-3 discussions
>>>>>>     - 5% are job offers.
>>>>>>     - 5% (which is just one thread out of 17) is about Python the
>>>>>> language.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm extremely impressed by your knowledge of statistics, it must have
>>>>> taken
>>>>> you many man years of effort to analyse all 17 threads in such detail.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  So can you understand why someone would be reluctant to start a
>>>>>> discussion in python-list about Python the language there? Especially
>>>>>> if
>>>>>> this is the same place where beginners might ask newbies questions
>>>>>> about
>>>>>> Python? (So not only are actual Python questions just 5% of the
>>>>>> content,
>>>>>> non-newbie questions are just a subset of that 5%.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> it's full of people asking about third-party Python packages, or
>>>>>> asking
>>>>>> newbie questions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> How terrible, fancy having the audacity to ask about third party
>>>>> packages
>>>>> or
>>>>> newbie questions on the *MAIN* Python mailing list.  There's yet
>>>>> another
>>>>> reason to bring back the death penalty in the UK.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Please adjust the tone of your messages if you are going to use this
>>>> mailing list.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I'm sorry but I do not understand, please explain what is wrong with an
>>> extremely heavy dose of sarcasm.
>>>
>>
>> There's a real discussion going on and you're just responding to throw
>> around sarcasm. People aren't going to come to this list if you're
>> just going to give them snarky replies. It's not helping.
>>
>>
> Okay, I'll leave the snarky comments to the people who are authorised to
> be snarky.  How do you get on this list?  Is it any core dev, or are there
> more severe restrictions than that, for example do you have to be a member
> of the PSF, in which case I'd guess you can be very snarky without having a
> word said against you?


I suspect Brian's point is sarcasm is fine in moderation. I'm sure we have
all had incidences online where sarcasm was not understood and someone took
it the wrong way. And with this list being international the chance of
something not catching something as sarcastic just goes up. So sarcasm is
fine, but keep it on the lighter side is all.
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