[Python-Dev] pip: cdecimal an externally hosted file and may be unreliable [sic]

[Donald Stufft]

On May 9, 2014, at 8:21 AM, Paul Moore <p.f.moore at gmail.com> wrote:

> On 9 May 2014 13:06, Donald Stufft <donald at stufft.io> wrote:
>>>> I think it's important to point out that one of the driving factors that caused
>>>> me to finally push for changes and what lead to PEP438 being created was that
>>>> Mercurial's external hosted was being extremely flaky. I can't remember the
>>>> exact details but I want to say that over the span of a week or two I was
>>>> getting massive numbers of users complaining that ``pip install Mercurial``
>>>> was suddenly failing. This isn't to knock on the Mercurial folks or anything
>>>> but to simply point out that these problems aren't things that just happen to
>>>> (under|un)maintained software nor are they hypothetical. This PEP was born of
>>>> the frustration that was being relayed to me by end users of PyPI/pip.
>>> 
>>> So now "pip install Mercurial" always fails? And adding a flag allows
>>> it to work as well as before, but no better? How did that fix the
>>> issue? Seriously - I'm missing something here.
>> 
>> No, This caused Mercurial to upload their packages to PyPI.
> 
> You're claiming that Mercurial moved to hosting on PyPI solely because
> users suddenly needed to add a flag to install from pip? As opposed to
> because PyPI gave them a more reliable hosting platform, for example?
> OK. I certainly can't give any evidence to dispute that claim,
> although I'm surprised.
> 
> Paul

I don’t know that for a fact but If my memory is correct that’s a reasonable
assumption based on the timeline.

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