[Python-Dev] PEP 481 - Migrate Some Supporting Repositories to Git and Github

[Wes Turner]

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On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 11:34 PM, Wes Turner <wes.turner at gmail.com> wrote:

> Specifically, which features are most ideal here?
>
> - [ ] Userbase
> - [ ] TTW editing only over SSL (see: Zope 2)
> - [ ] Pull Requests (see also: BitBucket, Torvalds rant)
> - [ ] Simple Issue Tagging
> - [ ] Pingbacks
> - [ ] CI Integration
>
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> On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 11:27 PM, Donald Stufft <donald at stufft.io> wrote:
>
>>
>> > On Nov 30, 2014, at 12:06 AM, Ben Finney <ben+python at benfinney.id.au>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Nick Coghlan <ncoghlan at gmail.com> writes:
>> >
>> >> 1. I strongly believe that the long term sustainability of the overall
>> >> open source community requires the availability and use of open source
>> >> infrastructure.
>> >
>> > I concur. This article <URL:http://mako.cc/writing/hill-free_tools.html
>> >
>> > makes the arguments well, IMO.
>> >
>> >> 2. I also feel that this proposal is far too cavalier in not even
>> >> discussing the possibility of helping out the Mercurial team […] we'd
>> >> prefer to switch to something else entirely rather than organising a
>> >> sprint with them at PyCon to help ensure that our existing Mercurial
>> >> based infrastructure is approachable for git & GitHub users?
>> >
>> > Exactly. For such a core tool, instead of pushing proprietary platforms
>> > at the expense of software freedom, the sensible strategy for a project
>> > (Python) that hopes to be around in the long term is to use and improve
>> > the free software platforms.
>>
>> I think there is a big difference here between using a closed source VCS
>> or compiler and using a closed source code host. Namely in that the
>> protocol is defined by git so switching from one host to another is easy.
>>
>> It’s akin to saying that if we chose to run the PyPI services on a Windows
>> machine that it is somehow makes it less-free even though we could
>> have chosen to run it on a “free” OS and we weren’t doing much, if
>> anything,
>> to tie us to that particular OS.
>>
>> If it makes people feel better we can continue to support the existing
>> mechanisms of contribution, then people can choose between interacting
>> with a “non free” host and “free” tooling. I suspect most people will
>> choose
>> the “non-free” tooling.
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