[Python-Dev] [Webmaster] Python keeps installing as 32 bit

Fri Dec 18 16:34:16 EST 2015

Hi,

Please remove these posts/liservs, etc. if possible, or strip my contact info/name/phone/email off the posts please.  I’m getting calls from people trying to help with my Python install issue.

http://code.activestate.com/lists/python-dev/138936/

http://blog.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.devel

This was not supposed to be posted online.  I just wanted to know if there was a trick to forcing x64 Python to install on x64 machines.

Thanks,
RM

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From: Mullins, Robb
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 2:49 PM
To: 'Brett Cannon' <brett at python.org>; Steve Holden <steve at holdenweb.com>
Cc: webmaster at python.org; python-dev at python.org
Subject: RE: [Python-Dev] [Webmaster] Python keeps installing as 32 bit

Yeah, I was using  Windows x86-64 executable installer<https://www.python.org/ftp/python/3.5.1/python-3.5.1-amd64.exe>  from that page.  I tried unzipping it just in case, no luck.

I’m thinking I’ll probably just use 32-bit though.  I found a post saying 64-bit might have issues compiling.  I don’t think users will know or care.  And there x86 installers are there.
http://www.howtogeek.com/197947/how-to-install-python-on-windows/<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.howtogeek.com_197947_how-2Dto-2Dinstall-2Dpython-2Don-2Dwindows_&d=BQMFAg&c=8hUWFZcy2Z-Za5rBPlktOQ&r=y_RUSYY4Glx1IFJUaf6Xbre9KyWT5ul5WQuX5EpIQcc&m=uBzznd-tubYdb7u3lkiQiSJAzvWvY09AqnxxSyk6X9o&s=byNc5saS-l2_YV8vHcLw-cRScdf3o9LQfsq8Ryoh6hs&e=>
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The only other thing I was thinking was something with the chip maybe.  I ran into this about a year ago.  (Or more now…)  I Python down for 32 vs 64-bit.  Then I noticed some 64-bit machines were still doing 32-bit, but I only have the x86-64.exe.  I can’t force x64 on it.
It’s not a huge issue at this point.  Once I figure it out, it will save time.  I’m planning on manually uninstalling versions of Python and then installing the current one (leaning toward x86 now) so all the user machines are consistent.

Thanks,
Robb

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From: Brett Cannon [mailto:brett at python.org]
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 2:39 PM
To: Steve Holden <steve at holdenweb.com<mailto:steve at holdenweb.com>>; Mullins, Robb <rmullins at illinois.edu<mailto:rmullins at illinois.edu>>
Cc: webmaster at python.org<mailto:webmaster at python.org>; python-dev at python.org<mailto:python-dev at python.org>
Subject: Re: [Python-Dev] [Webmaster] Python keeps installing as 32 bit

I can say for certain that Python 3.5.1 will install as 64-bit as that's what I'm personally running on the Windows 10 laptop that I'm writing this email on.

If you look at https://www.python.org/downloads/release/python-351/<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.python.org_downloads_release_python-2D351_&d=BQMFaQ&c=8hUWFZcy2Z-Za5rBPlktOQ&r=PB3vJtw8OgwFzJ2ouxagMyJUIDses2nDNQpi8a-E2Sc&m=sFKYSi8bRRNmoP9eMX03Hp64y3MNoezOchM77XpAJEQ&s=fzT6hU7EnLPmW0cwZNrU5WesRZsurYn9_6V9Uq6lB0U&e=> you will notice there are explicit 64-bit installers that you can use. Did you get your copy of Python by going straight to python.org/download<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__python.org_download&d=BQMFaQ&c=8hUWFZcy2Z-Za5rBPlktOQ&r=PB3vJtw8OgwFzJ2ouxagMyJUIDses2nDNQpi8a-E2Sc&m=sFKYSi8bRRNmoP9eMX03Hp64y3MNoezOchM77XpAJEQ&s=DatSGUzbuwknhXl4nILog2HYpQo1eU6NF_uLPq2rqJc&e=> and clicking the yellow "Download Python 3.5.1" button?

On Wed, 16 Dec 2015 at 12:33 Steve Holden <steve at holdenweb.com<mailto:steve at holdenweb.com>> wrote:
Hi Robb,

This address is really for web site issues, but we are mostly old hands, and reasonably well-connected, so we try to act as a helpful channel when we can.

In this case I can't personally help (though another webmaster may, if available, be able to offer advice). I stopped doing system administration for anything but my own machines a long time ago, having done far too much :-)

The many mailing list channels available are listed at https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__mail.python.org_mailman_listinfo&d=BQMFaQ&c=8hUWFZcy2Z-Za5rBPlktOQ&r=PB3vJtw8OgwFzJ2ouxagMyJUIDses2nDNQpi8a-E2Sc&m=sFKYSi8bRRNmoP9eMX03Hp64y3MNoezOchM77XpAJEQ&s=IcVvv3xHcOsB1tOOxqBWzGiyKWSJRGtP8pNX8rvqD9Y&e=>. I would recommend that you try the distutils list at https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__mail.python.org_mailman_listinfo_distutils-2Dsig&d=BQMFaQ&c=8hUWFZcy2Z-Za5rBPlktOQ&r=PB3vJtw8OgwFzJ2ouxagMyJUIDses2nDNQpi8a-E2Sc&m=sFKYSi8bRRNmoP9eMX03Hp64y3MNoezOchM77XpAJEQ&s=uCAuqfLtTRUVKv6uto3nhcxiboJ0MWLrba_-9OJzCyg&e=>; they don't actually build the Python installers (the dev who does that lives on python-dev, so that would be the place to go to get the scoop, and your email shows enough signs of competence that you need not fear adverse reactions). It seems like a reasonable enquiry to me, and I'm sorry I can't answer it.

I've Cc'd this email to python-dev on the off-chance that someone will recognise my name and let it through, but I don't know how many people are working on the Windows installer or how busy they are.

There are plenty of people smart enough to answer your question out there now, it's just a question of finding them. stackoverflow.com<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__stackoverflow.com&d=BQMFaQ&c=8hUWFZcy2Z-Za5rBPlktOQ&r=PB3vJtw8OgwFzJ2ouxagMyJUIDses2nDNQpi8a-E2Sc&m=sFKYSi8bRRNmoP9eMX03Hp64y3MNoezOchM77XpAJEQ&s=tReIL4F2N5YUlxwKJEFBGHD_Ejup2xRrfBTtltgz8cA&e=> has a pretty good Python channel too.

In any case, good luck, and thanks for reaching out to Python.

regards
 Steve

On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 7:29 PM, Mullins, Robb <rmullins at illinois.edu<mailto:rmullins at illinois.edu>> wrote:
Hi,

Not quite sure where to ask this.

I don’t use Python myself.  I keep user desktops updated.  Everything’s 64-bit.  In the past I was able to install 32-bit Python on 32-bit machines and 64-bit Python on 64-bit machines.  Now it’s just the one msi file to install, at least for 3.5.1.  I do have a couple Python 2.7.9 users.    We’re all 64-bit for machines, but I keep having Python install as 32-bit.  I’m not sure if it recognizes something on the machine and matches it for being 32-bit that I’m not aware of.  It can be tricky to uninstall, so it becomes a slight issue.  I just want to get 64-bit Python on my user machines, unless it’s not possible.

Is there a better place to ask this?

Thanks,
RM

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Center for Innovation in Teaching & Learning
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