[Python-Dev] How far to go with user-friendliness

Ryan Gonzalez rymg19 at gmail.com
Sat Jul 18 02:00:50 CEST 2015

I am tempted to reply with a slightly sarcastic message involving a cookie...

On July 17, 2015 6:40:21 PM CDT, Antoine Pitrou <solipsis at pitrou.net> wrote:
>Frankly, this kind of inept discussion, where a bunch of folks get hung
>up about an extremely minor design decision (who cares whether "assret"
>is being special-cased or not? in the actual world, not the fantasy
>world of righteous indignation and armchair architects?), is amongst
>the reasons why I'm stopping contributing to CPython.
>Keep up the good work, you're making this place totally repulsive to
>participate in. Every maintainer or contributor now has an army of
>voluntary hair-splitters to bother about, most of whom probably aren't
>relying on said functionality to begin with.
>On Fri, 17 Jul 2015 15:11:59 -0700
>Ethan Furman <ethan at stoneleaf.us> wrote:
>> On 07/16/2015 11:30 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote:
>> > On 17 July 2015 at 08:30, Ben Finney wrote:
>> >> By definition, advocating to not add cruft to an API is going to
>be in
>> >> advance of being bitten by those additions.
>> >
>> > That's not what people are doing. Folks are actually arguing for
>> > *restoring* the ability to mock out method names starting with
>> > "assret_*".
>> Why is that surprising?  As somebody already mentioned (Terry, I
>think?) "assret" is a fine abbreviation, as well as possibly being a
>foreign word.
>> > I still don't know why anyone thinks restoring that would be a
>> > worthwhile use of a maintainers' time (or why they thinking arguing
>> > favour of such a capability is a worthwhile use of theirs).
>> 1) Because it shouldn't have been added in the first place.
>> 2) Because DWIM does not belong in Python.
>> > None of the perspectives presented in this thread are new, although
>> > the apparent obsession over such a minor detail has made it
>> > clear that this kind of helper simply isn't worth 		the distraction
>> > creates for maintainers, *regardless* of whether or not it helps
>> > users.
>> To be clear:
>>    - those who are upset over "assret" are not upset over "assert"
>>    - it is not Python's job (nor the stdlib's) to correct spelling
>> --
>> ~Ethan~
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