[Python-Dev] Status on PEP-431 Timezones

MRAB python at mrabarnett.plus.com
Mon Jul 27 17:21:05 CEST 2015

On 2015-07-27 15:46, Lennart Regebro wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 4:13 PM, Steven D'Aprano <steve at pearwood.info> wrote:
>> To me, Paul's example is a datetime operation: you start with a datetime
>> (7am today), perform arithmetic on it by adding a period of time (one
>> day), and get a datetime as the result (7am tomorrow).
> Well, OK, let's propose these wordings: It looks like a date
> operation, ie, add one to the date, but in reality it's a time
> operation, ie add 86400 seconds to the time. These things sound
> similar but are very different.
> I called it a "calendar" operation, because these operation include
> such things as "add one year", where you expect to get the 27th of
> July 2016, but you will get the 26th if you use a timedelta, because
> 2016 is a leap year. So we need to separate date (or calendar)
> operations from time operations. The same thing goes with months, add
> 30 days, and you'll sometimes get the same result as if you add one
> month and sometimes not.
Also, if you "add one year" to 29 February 2016, what date do you get?

> timedelta adds time, not days, month or years. Except when you cross a
> DST border where it suddenly, surprisingly and intentionally may add
> more or less time than you told it to.

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