[Python-Dev] SSL certificates recommendations for downstream python packagers

David Cournapeau cournape at gmail.com
Mon Jan 30 16:19:12 EST 2017


On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 9:14 PM, Christian Heimes <christian at python.org>
wrote:

> On 2017-01-30 22:00, David Cournapeau wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 8:50 PM, Cory Benfield <cory at lukasa.co.uk
> > <mailto:cory at lukasa.co.uk>> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >     > On 30 Jan 2017, at 13:53, David Cournapeau <cournape at gmail.com
> <mailto:cournape at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >     >
> >     > Are there any official recommendations for downstream packagers
> beyond PEP 476 ? Is it "acceptable" for downstream packagers to patch
> python's default cert locations ?
> >
> >     There *are* no default cert locations on Windows or macOS that can
> >     be accessed by OpenSSL.
> >
> >     I cannot stress this strongly enough: you cannot provide a
> >     platform-native certificate validation logic for Python *and* use
> >     OpenSSL for certificate validation on Windows or macOS. (macOS can
> >     technically do this when you link against the system OpenSSL, at the
> >     cost of using a catastrophically insecure version of OpenSSL.)
> >
> >
> > Ah, thanks, that's already useful information.
> >
> > Just making sure I understand: this means there is no way to use
> > python's SSL library to use the system store on windows, in particular
> > private certifications that are often deployed by internal ITs in large
> > orgs ?
>
> That works with CPython because we get all trust anchors from the cert
> store. However Python is not able to retrieve *additional* certificates.
> A new installation of Windows starts off with a minimal set of trust
> anchors. Chrome, IE and Edge use the proper APIs.
>

Hm. Is this documented anywhere ? We have customers needing
"private/custom" certificates, and I am unsure where to look for.

David
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