[Python-Dev] What's the status of PEP 505: None-aware operators?

Mariatta Wijaya mariatta.wijaya at gmail.com
Tue Nov 28 15:42:26 EST 2017


-1 from me too.

Mariatta Wijaya

On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 12:38 PM, Barry Warsaw <barry at python.org> wrote:

> On Nov 28, 2017, at 15:31, Raymond Hettinger <raymond.hettinger at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Put me down for a strong -1.   The proposal would occasionally save a
> few keystokes but comes at the expense of giving Python a more Perlish look
> and a more arcane feel.
>
> I am also -1.
>
> > One of the things I like about Python is that I can walk non-programmers
> through the code and explain what it does.  The examples in PEP 505 look
> like a step in the wrong direction.  They don't "look like Python" and make
> me feel like I have to decrypt the code to figure-out what it does.
>
> I had occasional to speak with someone very involved in Rust development.
> They have a process roughly similar to our PEPs.  One of the things he told
> me, which I found very interesting and have been mulling over for PEPs is,
> they require a section in their specification discussion how any new
> feature will be taught, both to new Rust programmers and experienced ones.
> I love the emphasis on teachability.  Sometimes I really miss that when
> considering some of the PEPs and the features they introduce (look how hard
> it is to teach asynchronous programming).
>
> Cheers,
> -Barry
>
>
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