[Python-Dev] PEP 550 v4

[Ethan Furman]

On 09/06/2017 11:57 PM, Yury Selivanov wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 11:39 PM, Greg Ewing wrote:

>> Here's one way that refactoring could trip you up.
>> Start with this:
>>
>>     async def foo():
>>        calculate_something()
>>        #in a coroutine, so we can be lazy and not use a cm
>
> Where exactly does PEP 550 encourage users to be "lazy and not use a
> cm"?  PEP 550 provides a mechanism for implementing context managers!
> What is this example supposed to show?

That using a CM is not required, and tracking down a bug caused by not using a CM can be difficult.

> How is PEP 550 is at fault of somebody being lazy and not using a
> context manager?

Because PEP 550 makes a CM unnecessary in the simple (common?) case, hiding the need for a CM in not-so-simple cases. 
For comparison: in Python 3 we are now warned about files that have been left open (because explicitly closing files was 
unnecessary in CPython due to an implementation detail) -- the solution?  make files context managers whose __exit__ 
closes the file.

> PEP 550 has a hard requirement to make it possible for decimal/other
> libraries to start using its APIs and stay backwards compatible, so it
> allows `decimal.setcontext(ctx)` function to be implemented.  We are
> fixing things here.

I appreciate that the scientific and number-crunching communities have been a major driver of enhancements for Python 
(such as rich comparisons and, more recently, matrix operators), but I don't think an enhancement for them that makes 
life more difficult for the rest is a net win.

--
~Ethan~