[Python-Dev] [python-committers] PEP 581 (Using GitHub issues for CPython) is accepted

Brett Cannon brett at python.org
Wed May 15 11:57:31 EDT 2019

On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 8:18 AM Paul Moore <p.f.moore at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 15 May 2019 at 15:56, Victor Stinner <vstinner at redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Paul,
> > Le mer. 15 mai 2019 à 11:40, Paul Moore <p.f.moore at gmail.com> a écrit :
> > > Also, is there an archive of the discussions anywhere? The PEP says
> > > discussions happened on Zulip, but I don't follow that and I don't
> > > know where I can find an archived copy of the discussions.
> >
> > Well, the PEP has been discussed a lot at many places since May 2018.
> Thanks for all of these. I appreciate the time you took locating them
> for me. But I do have to say that I still can't really follow any
> useful "thread of discussion" - it all seems very fragmented, and it's
> difficult to see the progress towards consensus. Maybe that's just
> because I'm too used to mailing lists :-)
> > The PEP 581 has been (first?) discussed at the Language Summit which
> > was part of Pycon US 2018 (May 2018).
> Was that written up, or is it all just from people's memories by now?

There's at least https://lwn.net/Articles/754779/. Don't remember if other
people wrote up their own summary.


> The PEP 581 and 588 have been discussed at the Language Summit which
> > was part of Pycon US 2019 (2 weeks ago).
> Again, has there been any write up of that (yet)?

Not yet, but A. Jesse Jiryu Davis attended so the PSF could blog about it.

> As I say, I don't object to the decision, I'm more just trying to
> better understand the process of being involved under the new regime
> of the SC,

I think everyone is. :)

In the case of this PEP the various members of the SC have been keeping up
with the PEP and its discussions over the year that the PEP has been
around, we discussed the pros and cons that people brought up, thought
through what will be required for us to do the migration if the PEP was
accepted, and in the end decided it was worth the effort.

> combined with multiple fragmented forums for discussion.

A PEP is being worked on to try and propose a way to straighten this all
out, but travel, life, etc. has been keeping that one from being finished.
I've added discussing the status of it to our next meeting's agenda.

> It
> feels a lot harder these days to keep track of all the
> discussions/decisions going on. But maybe that's a good thing - only
> people with a genuine interest get involved, and I can spend less of
> my time reading mailing lists! :-)

Obviously YMMV, but I actually find it easier. :)


> Paul
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