[Python-Dev] Expected stability of PyCode_New() and types.CodeType() signatures

Simon Cross hodgestar+pythondev at gmail.com
Fri May 31 17:28:42 EDT 2019

As the maintainer of Genshi, one the libraries affected by the CodeType and
similar changes, I thought I could add a users perspective to the

Genshi is a templating engine that parses Python code from inside its
templates. It supports Python 2.6+, 3.2+, pypy2 and pypy3. It parses Python
using compile(...) and then walks the AST to, for example, translate
variable lookups into template context lookups.

Pretty much every major release of Python has broken Genshi's Python
parsing in some way. While on the one hand this is a bit annoying, I also
don't want Python to stop evolving where it makes sense.

My requests to core developers are largely pragmatic:

* Try not to change things unless there's a good reason to (i.e. it makes
Python better).
* Don't try declare that these things shouldn't be used (there is not much
I can do about that now).
* Do warn people that these things evolve with the language.
* If changes do happen, try make them visible and give a clear description
of what has changed.

Also many thanks to the core developers who've submitted patches to update
Genshi in the past -- that was awesome of you.

The new CodeType.replace will remove some potential sources of breakages in
the future, so thank you very much for adding that.

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