From richard at python.org  Tue Oct  1 01:00:03 2013
From: richard at python.org (Richard Jones)
Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2013 09:00:03 +1000
Subject: Where to post stuff?
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Just quickly, regarding the PyTennessee CFP I wasn't going to add that to
the calendar since if we add a bunch of conference CFPs I think the
calendar will get too cluttered.

Hm, I just noticed the Melbourne user group comes up as 10AM. It's 6PM with
the correct timezone in the calendar, but obviously the website display
fixes the timezone to something else and translates the time. Ho hum.


     Richard



On 1 October 2013 02:11, M.-A. Lemburg <mal at egenix.com> wrote:

> On 30.09.2013 17:58, Skip Montanaro wrote:
> > We now have three scrolls on the python.org front page, three Google
> > Calendar-related ones in the sidebar, and the newsindex.yml one in the
> > main section. This seems a little bit much to me. Shouldn't we cull
> > some of these? For example, I just added the PyTN CFP item to the
> > events calendar. Jason, the guy who requested it, said he didn't see
> > the update. Then I realized he was looking in the middle of the page,
> > not in the left-hand sidebar.
> >
> > What's the current policy about these various announcement options?
>
> Our team only manages the user group and conference events
> calendars (the two calendar widgets in the python.org sidebar
> and the calendar on pycon.org).
>
> We don't manage the newsindex.yml list which is show in the middle
> of python.org.
>
> The new site also separates the news from the calendars:
>
> http://preview.python.org/
>
> I think all these tools each reach a different audience, e.g.
> I use the Google calendars as external calendars in my own calendar,
> which is handy. The announcements on python.org is for people
> visiting the site and ones subscribing to the RSS feed. Then
> you have c.l.p.a which goes into the mail reader, etc.
>
> These are all different channels to market news. A bit of replication
> between these doesn't hurt, IMO. PR and marketing is generally a
> lossy business ;-)
>
> --
> Marc-Andre Lemburg
> eGenix.com
>
> Professional Python Services directly from the Source  (#1, Sep 30 2013)
> >>> Python Projects, Consulting and Support ...   http://www.egenix.com/
> >>> mxODBC.Zope/Plone.Database.Adapter ...       http://zope.egenix.com/
> >>> mxODBC, mxDateTime, mxTextTools ...        http://python.egenix.com/
> ________________________________________________________________________
> 2013-10-14: PyCon DE 2013, Cologne, Germany ...            14 days to go
>
> ::::: Try our mxODBC.Connect Python Database Interface for free ! ::::::
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>     D-40764 Langenfeld, Germany. CEO Dipl.-Math. Marc-Andre Lemburg
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From richard at python.org  Tue Oct  1 01:00:03 2013
From: richard at python.org (Richard Jones)
Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2013 09:00:03 +1000
Subject: Where to post stuff?
In-Reply-To: <5249A2B9.80608@egenix.com>
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	<5249A2B9.80608@egenix.com>
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Just quickly, regarding the PyTennessee CFP I wasn't going to add that to
the calendar since if we add a bunch of conference CFPs I think the
calendar will get too cluttered.

Hm, I just noticed the Melbourne user group comes up as 10AM. It's 6PM with
the correct timezone in the calendar, but obviously the website display
fixes the timezone to something else and translates the time. Ho hum.


     Richard



On 1 October 2013 02:11, M.-A. Lemburg <mal at egenix.com> wrote:

> On 30.09.2013 17:58, Skip Montanaro wrote:
> > We now have three scrolls on the python.org front page, three Google
> > Calendar-related ones in the sidebar, and the newsindex.yml one in the
> > main section. This seems a little bit much to me. Shouldn't we cull
> > some of these? For example, I just added the PyTN CFP item to the
> > events calendar. Jason, the guy who requested it, said he didn't see
> > the update. Then I realized he was looking in the middle of the page,
> > not in the left-hand sidebar.
> >
> > What's the current policy about these various announcement options?
>
> Our team only manages the user group and conference events
> calendars (the two calendar widgets in the python.org sidebar
> and the calendar on pycon.org).
>
> We don't manage the newsindex.yml list which is show in the middle
> of python.org.
>
> The new site also separates the news from the calendars:
>
> http://preview.python.org/
>
> I think all these tools each reach a different audience, e.g.
> I use the Google calendars as external calendars in my own calendar,
> which is handy. The announcements on python.org is for people
> visiting the site and ones subscribing to the RSS feed. Then
> you have c.l.p.a which goes into the mail reader, etc.
>
> These are all different channels to market news. A bit of replication
> between these doesn't hurt, IMO. PR and marketing is generally a
> lossy business ;-)
>
> --
> Marc-Andre Lemburg
> eGenix.com
>
> Professional Python Services directly from the Source  (#1, Sep 30 2013)
> >>> Python Projects, Consulting and Support ...   http://www.egenix.com/
> >>> mxODBC.Zope/Plone.Database.Adapter ...       http://zope.egenix.com/
> >>> mxODBC, mxDateTime, mxTextTools ...        http://python.egenix.com/
> ________________________________________________________________________
> 2013-10-14: PyCon DE 2013, Cologne, Germany ...            14 days to go
>
> ::::: Try our mxODBC.Connect Python Database Interface for free ! ::::::
>
>    eGenix.com Software, Skills and Services GmbH  Pastor-Loeh-Str.48
>     D-40764 Langenfeld, Germany. CEO Dipl.-Math. Marc-Andre Lemburg
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From skip at python.org  Tue Oct  1 03:05:50 2013
From: skip at python.org (Skip Montanaro)
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2013 20:05:50 -0500
Subject: Where to post stuff?
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> Just quickly, regarding the PyTennessee CFP I wasn't going to add that to
> the calendar since if we add a bunch of conference CFPs I think the calendar
> will get too cluttered.

That's fine. If you want to delete it from the Google Calendar, I say
zap it. Might it be worth adding an event for the last week the CFP is
open to call it out for people who have procrastinated?

> Hm, I just noticed the Melbourne user group comes up as 10AM. It's 6PM with
> the correct timezone in the calendar, but obviously the website display
> fixes the timezone to something else and translates the time. Ho hum.

I've found Google Calendar's handling of timezones less than ideal.  I
use a Google Calendar to list vintage bike events. They occur all
around the world, just as Python-related stuff does. When you create
entries it assumes the times are local to the timezone of the
calendar, and I've not seen any way for users to specify their
timezones or to specify that times in a listing are local to a
particular zone.  It can be very confusing for users, not to mention
calendar maintainers.

Skip


From skip at python.org  Tue Oct  1 03:05:50 2013
From: skip at python.org (Skip Montanaro)
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2013 20:05:50 -0500
Subject: Where to post stuff?
In-Reply-To: <CAHrZfZAMtrS5BYkSHLL0kUUaPXkob2Z=pZK1ZRAA4M06tNwpdw@mail.gmail.com>
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> Just quickly, regarding the PyTennessee CFP I wasn't going to add that to
> the calendar since if we add a bunch of conference CFPs I think the calendar
> will get too cluttered.

That's fine. If you want to delete it from the Google Calendar, I say
zap it. Might it be worth adding an event for the last week the CFP is
open to call it out for people who have procrastinated?

> Hm, I just noticed the Melbourne user group comes up as 10AM. It's 6PM with
> the correct timezone in the calendar, but obviously the website display
> fixes the timezone to something else and translates the time. Ho hum.

I've found Google Calendar's handling of timezones less than ideal.  I
use a Google Calendar to list vintage bike events. They occur all
around the world, just as Python-related stuff does. When you create
entries it assumes the times are local to the timezone of the
calendar, and I've not seen any way for users to specify their
timezones or to specify that times in a listing are local to a
particular zone.  It can be very confusing for users, not to mention
calendar maintainers.

Skip


From mmueller at python-academy.de  Tue Oct  1 08:58:04 2013
From: mmueller at python-academy.de (=?UTF-8?B?TWlrZSBNw7xsbGVy?=)
Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2013 08:58:04 +0200
Subject: Where to post stuff?
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	<CANc-5UywO0f_kJisWK6xeg4v18wzHk2JMhSG+RzAd_CvWRbLOQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Am 01.10.13 03:05, schrieb Skip Montanaro:
>> Just quickly, regarding the PyTennessee CFP I wasn't going to add that to
>> the calendar since if we add a bunch of conference CFPs I think the calendar
>> will get too cluttered.
> 
> That's fine. If you want to delete it from the Google Calendar, I say
> zap it. Might it be worth adding an event for the last week the CFP is
> open to call it out for people who have procrastinated?
> 
>> Hm, I just noticed the Melbourne user group comes up as 10AM. It's 6PM with
>> the correct timezone in the calendar, but obviously the website display
>> fixes the timezone to something else and translates the time. Ho hum.
> 
> I've found Google Calendar's handling of timezones less than ideal.  I
> use a Google Calendar to list vintage bike events. They occur all
> around the world, just as Python-related stuff does. When you create
> entries it assumes the times are local to the timezone of the
> calendar, and I've not seen any way for users to specify their
> timezones or to specify that times in a listing are local to a
> particular zone.  It can be very confusing for users, not to mention
> calendar maintainers.

You will get a button to change the time zone only if you uncheck
"whole day event" (The English wording might be different. I can
see only the German version.) Still, the event will be shown in
your time zone time. For example, if I put in US events in the
evening, they will show up early the next day like 1am or 2am.

Furthermore, if you use the feature for regular repetition like
a monthly event, you need to set the time zone first otherwise
if you change the time zone later, the event for the next months
ends up in the wrong time zone.

Mike

> 
> Skip
> 


From mmueller at python-academy.de  Tue Oct  1 08:58:04 2013
From: mmueller at python-academy.de (=?UTF-8?B?TWlrZSBNw7xsbGVy?=)
Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2013 08:58:04 +0200
Subject: Where to post stuff?
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Am 01.10.13 03:05, schrieb Skip Montanaro:
>> Just quickly, regarding the PyTennessee CFP I wasn't going to add that to
>> the calendar since if we add a bunch of conference CFPs I think the calendar
>> will get too cluttered.
> 
> That's fine. If you want to delete it from the Google Calendar, I say
> zap it. Might it be worth adding an event for the last week the CFP is
> open to call it out for people who have procrastinated?
> 
>> Hm, I just noticed the Melbourne user group comes up as 10AM. It's 6PM with
>> the correct timezone in the calendar, but obviously the website display
>> fixes the timezone to something else and translates the time. Ho hum.
> 
> I've found Google Calendar's handling of timezones less than ideal.  I
> use a Google Calendar to list vintage bike events. They occur all
> around the world, just as Python-related stuff does. When you create
> entries it assumes the times are local to the timezone of the
> calendar, and I've not seen any way for users to specify their
> timezones or to specify that times in a listing are local to a
> particular zone.  It can be very confusing for users, not to mention
> calendar maintainers.

You will get a button to change the time zone only if you uncheck
"whole day event" (The English wording might be different. I can
see only the German version.) Still, the event will be shown in
your time zone time. For example, if I put in US events in the
evening, they will show up early the next day like 1am or 2am.

Furthermore, if you use the feature for regular repetition like
a monthly event, you need to set the time zone first otherwise
if you change the time zone later, the event for the next months
ends up in the wrong time zone.

Mike

> 
> Skip
> 


From mal at egenix.com  Tue Oct  1 09:31:28 2013
From: mal at egenix.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2013 09:31:28 +0200
Subject: Where to post stuff?
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On 01.10.2013 01:00, Richard Jones wrote:
> Just quickly, regarding the PyTennessee CFP I wasn't going to add that to
> the calendar since if we add a bunch of conference CFPs I think the
> calendar will get too cluttered.

The Google calendars should only list the events themselves,
not any extras like CFPs.

I've added a note to the calendar wiki page:

https://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonEventsCalendar#General_Requirements

For the news list on python.org, I think adding CFPs for larger events
is fine, but I can see that this can easily move more important news such
as new Python releases out of visibility - esp. since the new site
will only list a limited number of entries.

> Hm, I just noticed the Melbourne user group comes up as 10AM. It's 6PM with
> the correct timezone in the calendar, but obviously the website display
> fixes the timezone to something else and translates the time. Ho hum.

Both calendars are set to use GMT as their native timezone.
When adding an event, you can set the timezone to a specific
location and Google will then store the corresponding GMT
time in the calendar. That may be more confusing than useful.

Perhaps there's something we could tweak to have it use
the browser timezone. The iframes explicitly list:

ctz=Europe%2FLondon

which according to https://developers.google.com/google-apps/calendar/v2/reference
results in all events being listed in London time (not even
GMT, but also London summer time).

We might want to drop using timezones for such events
and only list the local times in the description.

What do you think ?

>      Richard
> 
> 
> 
> On 1 October 2013 02:11, M.-A. Lemburg <mal at egenix.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 30.09.2013 17:58, Skip Montanaro wrote:
>>> We now have three scrolls on the python.org front page, three Google
>>> Calendar-related ones in the sidebar, and the newsindex.yml one in the
>>> main section. This seems a little bit much to me. Shouldn't we cull
>>> some of these? For example, I just added the PyTN CFP item to the
>>> events calendar. Jason, the guy who requested it, said he didn't see
>>> the update. Then I realized he was looking in the middle of the page,
>>> not in the left-hand sidebar.
>>>
>>> What's the current policy about these various announcement options?
>>
>> Our team only manages the user group and conference events
>> calendars (the two calendar widgets in the python.org sidebar
>> and the calendar on pycon.org).
>>
>> We don't manage the newsindex.yml list which is show in the middle
>> of python.org.
>>
>> The new site also separates the news from the calendars:
>>
>> http://preview.python.org/
>>
>> I think all these tools each reach a different audience, e.g.
>> I use the Google calendars as external calendars in my own calendar,
>> which is handy. The announcements on python.org is for people
>> visiting the site and ones subscribing to the RSS feed. Then
>> you have c.l.p.a which goes into the mail reader, etc.
>>
>> These are all different channels to market news. A bit of replication
>> between these doesn't hurt, IMO. PR and marketing is generally a
>> lossy business ;-)
>>
>> --
>> Marc-Andre Lemburg
>> eGenix.com
>>
>> Professional Python Services directly from the Source  (#1, Sep 30 2013)
>>>>> Python Projects, Consulting and Support ...   http://www.egenix.com/
>>>>> mxODBC.Zope/Plone.Database.Adapter ...       http://zope.egenix.com/
>>>>> mxODBC, mxDateTime, mxTextTools ...        http://python.egenix.com/
>> ________________________________________________________________________
>> 2013-10-14: PyCon DE 2013, Cologne, Germany ...            14 days to go
>>
>> ::::: Try our mxODBC.Connect Python Database Interface for free ! ::::::
>>
>>    eGenix.com Software, Skills and Services GmbH  Pastor-Loeh-Str.48
>>     D-40764 Langenfeld, Germany. CEO Dipl.-Math. Marc-Andre Lemburg
>>            Registered at Amtsgericht Duesseldorf: HRB 46611
>>                http://www.egenix.com/company/contact/
>>
> 

-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
eGenix.com

Professional Python Services directly from the Source  (#1, Oct 01 2013)
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>>> mxODBC.Zope/Plone.Database.Adapter ...       http://zope.egenix.com/
>>> mxODBC, mxDateTime, mxTextTools ...        http://python.egenix.com/
________________________________________________________________________
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           Registered at Amtsgericht Duesseldorf: HRB 46611
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From mal at egenix.com  Tue Oct  1 09:31:28 2013
From: mal at egenix.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2013 09:31:28 +0200
Subject: Where to post stuff?
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On 01.10.2013 01:00, Richard Jones wrote:
> Just quickly, regarding the PyTennessee CFP I wasn't going to add that to
> the calendar since if we add a bunch of conference CFPs I think the
> calendar will get too cluttered.

The Google calendars should only list the events themselves,
not any extras like CFPs.

I've added a note to the calendar wiki page:

https://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonEventsCalendar#General_Requirements

For the news list on python.org, I think adding CFPs for larger events
is fine, but I can see that this can easily move more important news such
as new Python releases out of visibility - esp. since the new site
will only list a limited number of entries.

> Hm, I just noticed the Melbourne user group comes up as 10AM. It's 6PM with
> the correct timezone in the calendar, but obviously the website display
> fixes the timezone to something else and translates the time. Ho hum.

Both calendars are set to use GMT as their native timezone.
When adding an event, you can set the timezone to a specific
location and Google will then store the corresponding GMT
time in the calendar. That may be more confusing than useful.

Perhaps there's something we could tweak to have it use
the browser timezone. The iframes explicitly list:

ctz=Europe%2FLondon

which according to https://developers.google.com/google-apps/calendar/v2/reference
results in all events being listed in London time (not even
GMT, but also London summer time).

We might want to drop using timezones for such events
and only list the local times in the description.

What do you think ?

>      Richard
> 
> 
> 
> On 1 October 2013 02:11, M.-A. Lemburg <mal at egenix.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 30.09.2013 17:58, Skip Montanaro wrote:
>>> We now have three scrolls on the python.org front page, three Google
>>> Calendar-related ones in the sidebar, and the newsindex.yml one in the
>>> main section. This seems a little bit much to me. Shouldn't we cull
>>> some of these? For example, I just added the PyTN CFP item to the
>>> events calendar. Jason, the guy who requested it, said he didn't see
>>> the update. Then I realized he was looking in the middle of the page,
>>> not in the left-hand sidebar.
>>>
>>> What's the current policy about these various announcement options?
>>
>> Our team only manages the user group and conference events
>> calendars (the two calendar widgets in the python.org sidebar
>> and the calendar on pycon.org).
>>
>> We don't manage the newsindex.yml list which is show in the middle
>> of python.org.
>>
>> The new site also separates the news from the calendars:
>>
>> http://preview.python.org/
>>
>> I think all these tools each reach a different audience, e.g.
>> I use the Google calendars as external calendars in my own calendar,
>> which is handy. The announcements on python.org is for people
>> visiting the site and ones subscribing to the RSS feed. Then
>> you have c.l.p.a which goes into the mail reader, etc.
>>
>> These are all different channels to market news. A bit of replication
>> between these doesn't hurt, IMO. PR and marketing is generally a
>> lossy business ;-)
>>
>> --
>> Marc-Andre Lemburg
>> eGenix.com
>>
>> Professional Python Services directly from the Source  (#1, Sep 30 2013)
>>>>> Python Projects, Consulting and Support ...   http://www.egenix.com/
>>>>> mxODBC.Zope/Plone.Database.Adapter ...       http://zope.egenix.com/
>>>>> mxODBC, mxDateTime, mxTextTools ...        http://python.egenix.com/
>> ________________________________________________________________________
>> 2013-10-14: PyCon DE 2013, Cologne, Germany ...            14 days to go
>>
>> ::::: Try our mxODBC.Connect Python Database Interface for free ! ::::::
>>
>>    eGenix.com Software, Skills and Services GmbH  Pastor-Loeh-Str.48
>>     D-40764 Langenfeld, Germany. CEO Dipl.-Math. Marc-Andre Lemburg
>>            Registered at Amtsgericht Duesseldorf: HRB 46611
>>                http://www.egenix.com/company/contact/
>>
> 

-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
eGenix.com

Professional Python Services directly from the Source  (#1, Oct 01 2013)
>>> Python Projects, Consulting and Support ...   http://www.egenix.com/
>>> mxODBC.Zope/Plone.Database.Adapter ...       http://zope.egenix.com/
>>> mxODBC, mxDateTime, mxTextTools ...        http://python.egenix.com/
________________________________________________________________________
2013-10-14: PyCon DE 2013, Cologne, Germany ...            13 days to go

::::: Try our mxODBC.Connect Python Database Interface for free ! ::::::

   eGenix.com Software, Skills and Services GmbH  Pastor-Loeh-Str.48
    D-40764 Langenfeld, Germany. CEO Dipl.-Math. Marc-Andre Lemburg
           Registered at Amtsgericht Duesseldorf: HRB 46611
               http://www.egenix.com/company/contact/


From mal at python.org  Tue Oct  1 09:35:35 2013
From: mal at python.org (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2013 09:35:35 +0200
Subject: Where to post stuff?
In-Reply-To: <524A7A50.2070807@egenix.com>
References: <CANc-5UwEBB2gyh2Y52hnKiLdxVsaOpyG9QaJm+1aCPoZ=dOihQ@mail.gmail.com>	<5249A2B9.80608@egenix.com>	<CAHrZfZAMtrS5BYkSHLL0kUUaPXkob2Z=pZK1ZRAA4M06tNwpdw@mail.gmail.com>
	<524A7A50.2070807@egenix.com>
Message-ID: <524A7B47.2020909@python.org>

On 01.10.2013 09:31, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
> On 01.10.2013 01:00, Richard Jones wrote:
>> Just quickly, regarding the PyTennessee CFP I wasn't going to add that to
>> the calendar since if we add a bunch of conference CFPs I think the
>> calendar will get too cluttered.
> 
> The Google calendars should only list the events themselves,
> not any extras like CFPs.
> 
> I've added a note to the calendar wiki page:
> 
> https://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonEventsCalendar#General_Requirements
> 
> For the news list on python.org, I think adding CFPs for larger events
> is fine, but I can see that this can easily move more important news such
> as new Python releases out of visibility - esp. since the new site
> will only list a limited number of entries.
> 
>> Hm, I just noticed the Melbourne user group comes up as 10AM. It's 6PM with
>> the correct timezone in the calendar, but obviously the website display
>> fixes the timezone to something else and translates the time. Ho hum.
> 
> Both calendars are set to use GMT as their native timezone.
> When adding an event, you can set the timezone to a specific
> location and Google will then store the corresponding GMT
> time in the calendar. That may be more confusing than useful.
> 
> Perhaps there's something we could tweak to have it use
> the browser timezone. The iframes explicitly list:
> 
> ctz=Europe%2FLondon
> 
> which according to https://developers.google.com/google-apps/calendar/v2/reference
> results in all events being listed in London time (not even
> GMT, but also London summer time).

Also see this thread:

http://productforums.google.com/forum/?_escaped_fragment_=msg/calendar/oM9HZJpwN7E/YAdncNTcZxYJ#!msg/calendar/oM9HZJpwN7E/YAdncNTcZxYJ

Looks like we'd have to add some JavaScript to make it happen,
perhaps based on this:

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1091372/getting-the-clients-timezone-in-javascript

if the calendar query API supports using timezone strings that
are not locations.

> We might want to drop using timezones for such events
> and only list the local times in the description.
> 
> What do you think ?
> 
>>      Richard
>>
>>
>>
>> On 1 October 2013 02:11, M.-A. Lemburg <mal at egenix.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 30.09.2013 17:58, Skip Montanaro wrote:
>>>> We now have three scrolls on the python.org front page, three Google
>>>> Calendar-related ones in the sidebar, and the newsindex.yml one in the
>>>> main section. This seems a little bit much to me. Shouldn't we cull
>>>> some of these? For example, I just added the PyTN CFP item to the
>>>> events calendar. Jason, the guy who requested it, said he didn't see
>>>> the update. Then I realized he was looking in the middle of the page,
>>>> not in the left-hand sidebar.
>>>>
>>>> What's the current policy about these various announcement options?
>>>
>>> Our team only manages the user group and conference events
>>> calendars (the two calendar widgets in the python.org sidebar
>>> and the calendar on pycon.org).
>>>
>>> We don't manage the newsindex.yml list which is show in the middle
>>> of python.org.
>>>
>>> The new site also separates the news from the calendars:
>>>
>>> http://preview.python.org/
>>>
>>> I think all these tools each reach a different audience, e.g.
>>> I use the Google calendars as external calendars in my own calendar,
>>> which is handy. The announcements on python.org is for people
>>> visiting the site and ones subscribing to the RSS feed. Then
>>> you have c.l.p.a which goes into the mail reader, etc.
>>>
>>> These are all different channels to market news. A bit of replication
>>> between these doesn't hurt, IMO. PR and marketing is generally a
>>> lossy business ;-)
>>>
>>> --
>>> Marc-Andre Lemburg
>>> eGenix.com
>>>
>>> Professional Python Services directly from the Source  (#1, Sep 30 2013)
>>>>>> Python Projects, Consulting and Support ...   http://www.egenix.com/
>>>>>> mxODBC.Zope/Plone.Database.Adapter ...       http://zope.egenix.com/
>>>>>> mxODBC, mxDateTime, mxTextTools ...        http://python.egenix.com/
>>> ________________________________________________________________________
>>> 2013-10-14: PyCon DE 2013, Cologne, Germany ...            14 days to go
>>>
>>> ::::: Try our mxODBC.Connect Python Database Interface for free ! ::::::
>>>
>>>    eGenix.com Software, Skills and Services GmbH  Pastor-Loeh-Str.48
>>>     D-40764 Langenfeld, Germany. CEO Dipl.-Math. Marc-Andre Lemburg
>>>            Registered at Amtsgericht Duesseldorf: HRB 46611
>>>                http://www.egenix.com/company/contact/
>>>
>>
> 

-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
Director
Python Software Foundation
http://www.python.org/psf/


From mal at python.org  Tue Oct  1 09:35:35 2013
From: mal at python.org (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2013 09:35:35 +0200
Subject: Where to post stuff?
In-Reply-To: <524A7A50.2070807@egenix.com>
References: <CANc-5UwEBB2gyh2Y52hnKiLdxVsaOpyG9QaJm+1aCPoZ=dOihQ@mail.gmail.com>	<5249A2B9.80608@egenix.com>	<CAHrZfZAMtrS5BYkSHLL0kUUaPXkob2Z=pZK1ZRAA4M06tNwpdw@mail.gmail.com>
	<524A7A50.2070807@egenix.com>
Message-ID: <524A7B47.2020909@python.org>

On 01.10.2013 09:31, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
> On 01.10.2013 01:00, Richard Jones wrote:
>> Just quickly, regarding the PyTennessee CFP I wasn't going to add that to
>> the calendar since if we add a bunch of conference CFPs I think the
>> calendar will get too cluttered.
> 
> The Google calendars should only list the events themselves,
> not any extras like CFPs.
> 
> I've added a note to the calendar wiki page:
> 
> https://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonEventsCalendar#General_Requirements
> 
> For the news list on python.org, I think adding CFPs for larger events
> is fine, but I can see that this can easily move more important news such
> as new Python releases out of visibility - esp. since the new site
> will only list a limited number of entries.
> 
>> Hm, I just noticed the Melbourne user group comes up as 10AM. It's 6PM with
>> the correct timezone in the calendar, but obviously the website display
>> fixes the timezone to something else and translates the time. Ho hum.
> 
> Both calendars are set to use GMT as their native timezone.
> When adding an event, you can set the timezone to a specific
> location and Google will then store the corresponding GMT
> time in the calendar. That may be more confusing than useful.
> 
> Perhaps there's something we could tweak to have it use
> the browser timezone. The iframes explicitly list:
> 
> ctz=Europe%2FLondon
> 
> which according to https://developers.google.com/google-apps/calendar/v2/reference
> results in all events being listed in London time (not even
> GMT, but also London summer time).

Also see this thread:

http://productforums.google.com/forum/?_escaped_fragment_=msg/calendar/oM9HZJpwN7E/YAdncNTcZxYJ#!msg/calendar/oM9HZJpwN7E/YAdncNTcZxYJ

Looks like we'd have to add some JavaScript to make it happen,
perhaps based on this:

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1091372/getting-the-clients-timezone-in-javascript

if the calendar query API supports using timezone strings that
are not locations.

> We might want to drop using timezones for such events
> and only list the local times in the description.
> 
> What do you think ?
> 
>>      Richard
>>
>>
>>
>> On 1 October 2013 02:11, M.-A. Lemburg <mal at egenix.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 30.09.2013 17:58, Skip Montanaro wrote:
>>>> We now have three scrolls on the python.org front page, three Google
>>>> Calendar-related ones in the sidebar, and the newsindex.yml one in the
>>>> main section. This seems a little bit much to me. Shouldn't we cull
>>>> some of these? For example, I just added the PyTN CFP item to the
>>>> events calendar. Jason, the guy who requested it, said he didn't see
>>>> the update. Then I realized he was looking in the middle of the page,
>>>> not in the left-hand sidebar.
>>>>
>>>> What's the current policy about these various announcement options?
>>>
>>> Our team only manages the user group and conference events
>>> calendars (the two calendar widgets in the python.org sidebar
>>> and the calendar on pycon.org).
>>>
>>> We don't manage the newsindex.yml list which is show in the middle
>>> of python.org.
>>>
>>> The new site also separates the news from the calendars:
>>>
>>> http://preview.python.org/
>>>
>>> I think all these tools each reach a different audience, e.g.
>>> I use the Google calendars as external calendars in my own calendar,
>>> which is handy. The announcements on python.org is for people
>>> visiting the site and ones subscribing to the RSS feed. Then
>>> you have c.l.p.a which goes into the mail reader, etc.
>>>
>>> These are all different channels to market news. A bit of replication
>>> between these doesn't hurt, IMO. PR and marketing is generally a
>>> lossy business ;-)
>>>
>>> --
>>> Marc-Andre Lemburg
>>> eGenix.com
>>>
>>> Professional Python Services directly from the Source  (#1, Sep 30 2013)
>>>>>> Python Projects, Consulting and Support ...   http://www.egenix.com/
>>>>>> mxODBC.Zope/Plone.Database.Adapter ...       http://zope.egenix.com/
>>>>>> mxODBC, mxDateTime, mxTextTools ...        http://python.egenix.com/
>>> ________________________________________________________________________
>>> 2013-10-14: PyCon DE 2013, Cologne, Germany ...            14 days to go
>>>
>>> ::::: Try our mxODBC.Connect Python Database Interface for free ! ::::::
>>>
>>>    eGenix.com Software, Skills and Services GmbH  Pastor-Loeh-Str.48
>>>     D-40764 Langenfeld, Germany. CEO Dipl.-Math. Marc-Andre Lemburg
>>>            Registered at Amtsgericht Duesseldorf: HRB 46611
>>>                http://www.egenix.com/company/contact/
>>>
>>
> 

-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
Director
Python Software Foundation
http://www.python.org/psf/


From mal at python.org  Tue Oct  1 11:08:09 2013
From: mal at python.org (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2013 11:08:09 +0200
Subject: Where to post stuff?
In-Reply-To: <524A7B47.2020909@python.org>
References: <CANc-5UwEBB2gyh2Y52hnKiLdxVsaOpyG9QaJm+1aCPoZ=dOihQ@mail.gmail.com>	<5249A2B9.80608@egenix.com>	<CAHrZfZAMtrS5BYkSHLL0kUUaPXkob2Z=pZK1ZRAA4M06tNwpdw@mail.gmail.com>	<524A7A50.2070807@egenix.com>
	<524A7B47.2020909@python.org>
Message-ID: <524A90F9.5010101@python.org>

On 01.10.2013 09:35, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
> On 01.10.2013 09:31, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
>> On 01.10.2013 01:00, Richard Jones wrote:
>>> Just quickly, regarding the PyTennessee CFP I wasn't going to add that to
>>> the calendar since if we add a bunch of conference CFPs I think the
>>> calendar will get too cluttered.
>>
>> The Google calendars should only list the events themselves,
>> not any extras like CFPs.
>>
>> I've added a note to the calendar wiki page:
>>
>> https://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonEventsCalendar#General_Requirements
>>
>> For the news list on python.org, I think adding CFPs for larger events
>> is fine, but I can see that this can easily move more important news such
>> as new Python releases out of visibility - esp. since the new site
>> will only list a limited number of entries.

FYI: I've removed the PyTN CFP event from the calendar again.

>>> Hm, I just noticed the Melbourne user group comes up as 10AM. It's 6PM with
>>> the correct timezone in the calendar, but obviously the website display
>>> fixes the timezone to something else and translates the time. Ho hum.
>>
>> Both calendars are set to use GMT as their native timezone.
>> When adding an event, you can set the timezone to a specific
>> location and Google will then store the corresponding GMT
>> time in the calendar. That may be more confusing than useful.
>>
>> Perhaps there's something we could tweak to have it use
>> the browser timezone. The iframes explicitly list:
>>
>> ctz=Europe%2FLondon
>>
>> which according to https://developers.google.com/google-apps/calendar/v2/reference
>> results in all events being listed in London time (not even
>> GMT, but also London summer time).
> 
> Also see this thread:
> 
> http://productforums.google.com/forum/?_escaped_fragment_=msg/calendar/oM9HZJpwN7E/YAdncNTcZxYJ#!msg/calendar/oM9HZJpwN7E/YAdncNTcZxYJ
> 
> Looks like we'd have to add some JavaScript to make it happen,
> perhaps based on this:
> 
> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1091372/getting-the-clients-timezone-in-javascript
> 
> if the calendar query API supports using timezone strings that
> are not locations.
> 
>> We might want to drop using timezones for such events
>> and only list the local times in the description.
>>
>> What do you think ?
>>
>>>      Richard
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 1 October 2013 02:11, M.-A. Lemburg <mal at egenix.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 30.09.2013 17:58, Skip Montanaro wrote:
>>>>> We now have three scrolls on the python.org front page, three Google
>>>>> Calendar-related ones in the sidebar, and the newsindex.yml one in the
>>>>> main section. This seems a little bit much to me. Shouldn't we cull
>>>>> some of these? For example, I just added the PyTN CFP item to the
>>>>> events calendar. Jason, the guy who requested it, said he didn't see
>>>>> the update. Then I realized he was looking in the middle of the page,
>>>>> not in the left-hand sidebar.
>>>>>
>>>>> What's the current policy about these various announcement options?
>>>>
>>>> Our team only manages the user group and conference events
>>>> calendars (the two calendar widgets in the python.org sidebar
>>>> and the calendar on pycon.org).
>>>>
>>>> We don't manage the newsindex.yml list which is show in the middle
>>>> of python.org.
>>>>
>>>> The new site also separates the news from the calendars:
>>>>
>>>> http://preview.python.org/
>>>>
>>>> I think all these tools each reach a different audience, e.g.
>>>> I use the Google calendars as external calendars in my own calendar,
>>>> which is handy. The announcements on python.org is for people
>>>> visiting the site and ones subscribing to the RSS feed. Then
>>>> you have c.l.p.a which goes into the mail reader, etc.
>>>>
>>>> These are all different channels to market news. A bit of replication
>>>> between these doesn't hurt, IMO. PR and marketing is generally a
>>>> lossy business ;-)
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Marc-Andre Lemburg
>>>> eGenix.com
>>>>
>>>> Professional Python Services directly from the Source  (#1, Sep 30 2013)
>>>>>>> Python Projects, Consulting and Support ...   http://www.egenix.com/
>>>>>>> mxODBC.Zope/Plone.Database.Adapter ...       http://zope.egenix.com/
>>>>>>> mxODBC, mxDateTime, mxTextTools ...        http://python.egenix.com/
>>>> ________________________________________________________________________
>>>> 2013-10-14: PyCon DE 2013, Cologne, Germany ...            14 days to go
>>>>
>>>> ::::: Try our mxODBC.Connect Python Database Interface for free ! ::::::
>>>>
>>>>    eGenix.com Software, Skills and Services GmbH  Pastor-Loeh-Str.48
>>>>     D-40764 Langenfeld, Germany. CEO Dipl.-Math. Marc-Andre Lemburg
>>>>            Registered at Amtsgericht Duesseldorf: HRB 46611
>>>>                http://www.egenix.com/company/contact/
>>>>
>>>
>>
> 

-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
Director
Python Software Foundation
http://www.python.org/psf/


From mal at python.org  Tue Oct  1 11:08:09 2013
From: mal at python.org (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2013 11:08:09 +0200
Subject: Where to post stuff?
In-Reply-To: <524A7B47.2020909@python.org>
References: <CANc-5UwEBB2gyh2Y52hnKiLdxVsaOpyG9QaJm+1aCPoZ=dOihQ@mail.gmail.com>	<5249A2B9.80608@egenix.com>	<CAHrZfZAMtrS5BYkSHLL0kUUaPXkob2Z=pZK1ZRAA4M06tNwpdw@mail.gmail.com>	<524A7A50.2070807@egenix.com>
	<524A7B47.2020909@python.org>
Message-ID: <524A90F9.5010101@python.org>

On 01.10.2013 09:35, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
> On 01.10.2013 09:31, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
>> On 01.10.2013 01:00, Richard Jones wrote:
>>> Just quickly, regarding the PyTennessee CFP I wasn't going to add that to
>>> the calendar since if we add a bunch of conference CFPs I think the
>>> calendar will get too cluttered.
>>
>> The Google calendars should only list the events themselves,
>> not any extras like CFPs.
>>
>> I've added a note to the calendar wiki page:
>>
>> https://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonEventsCalendar#General_Requirements
>>
>> For the news list on python.org, I think adding CFPs for larger events
>> is fine, but I can see that this can easily move more important news such
>> as new Python releases out of visibility - esp. since the new site
>> will only list a limited number of entries.

FYI: I've removed the PyTN CFP event from the calendar again.

>>> Hm, I just noticed the Melbourne user group comes up as 10AM. It's 6PM with
>>> the correct timezone in the calendar, but obviously the website display
>>> fixes the timezone to something else and translates the time. Ho hum.
>>
>> Both calendars are set to use GMT as their native timezone.
>> When adding an event, you can set the timezone to a specific
>> location and Google will then store the corresponding GMT
>> time in the calendar. That may be more confusing than useful.
>>
>> Perhaps there's something we could tweak to have it use
>> the browser timezone. The iframes explicitly list:
>>
>> ctz=Europe%2FLondon
>>
>> which according to https://developers.google.com/google-apps/calendar/v2/reference
>> results in all events being listed in London time (not even
>> GMT, but also London summer time).
> 
> Also see this thread:
> 
> http://productforums.google.com/forum/?_escaped_fragment_=msg/calendar/oM9HZJpwN7E/YAdncNTcZxYJ#!msg/calendar/oM9HZJpwN7E/YAdncNTcZxYJ
> 
> Looks like we'd have to add some JavaScript to make it happen,
> perhaps based on this:
> 
> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1091372/getting-the-clients-timezone-in-javascript
> 
> if the calendar query API supports using timezone strings that
> are not locations.
> 
>> We might want to drop using timezones for such events
>> and only list the local times in the description.
>>
>> What do you think ?
>>
>>>      Richard
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 1 October 2013 02:11, M.-A. Lemburg <mal at egenix.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 30.09.2013 17:58, Skip Montanaro wrote:
>>>>> We now have three scrolls on the python.org front page, three Google
>>>>> Calendar-related ones in the sidebar, and the newsindex.yml one in the
>>>>> main section. This seems a little bit much to me. Shouldn't we cull
>>>>> some of these? For example, I just added the PyTN CFP item to the
>>>>> events calendar. Jason, the guy who requested it, said he didn't see
>>>>> the update. Then I realized he was looking in the middle of the page,
>>>>> not in the left-hand sidebar.
>>>>>
>>>>> What's the current policy about these various announcement options?
>>>>
>>>> Our team only manages the user group and conference events
>>>> calendars (the two calendar widgets in the python.org sidebar
>>>> and the calendar on pycon.org).
>>>>
>>>> We don't manage the newsindex.yml list which is show in the middle
>>>> of python.org.
>>>>
>>>> The new site also separates the news from the calendars:
>>>>
>>>> http://preview.python.org/
>>>>
>>>> I think all these tools each reach a different audience, e.g.
>>>> I use the Google calendars as external calendars in my own calendar,
>>>> which is handy. The announcements on python.org is for people
>>>> visiting the site and ones subscribing to the RSS feed. Then
>>>> you have c.l.p.a which goes into the mail reader, etc.
>>>>
>>>> These are all different channels to market news. A bit of replication
>>>> between these doesn't hurt, IMO. PR and marketing is generally a
>>>> lossy business ;-)
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Marc-Andre Lemburg
>>>> eGenix.com
>>>>
>>>> Professional Python Services directly from the Source  (#1, Sep 30 2013)
>>>>>>> Python Projects, Consulting and Support ...   http://www.egenix.com/
>>>>>>> mxODBC.Zope/Plone.Database.Adapter ...       http://zope.egenix.com/
>>>>>>> mxODBC, mxDateTime, mxTextTools ...        http://python.egenix.com/
>>>> ________________________________________________________________________
>>>> 2013-10-14: PyCon DE 2013, Cologne, Germany ...            14 days to go
>>>>
>>>> ::::: Try our mxODBC.Connect Python Database Interface for free ! ::::::
>>>>
>>>>    eGenix.com Software, Skills and Services GmbH  Pastor-Loeh-Str.48
>>>>     D-40764 Langenfeld, Germany. CEO Dipl.-Math. Marc-Andre Lemburg
>>>>            Registered at Amtsgericht Duesseldorf: HRB 46611
>>>>                http://www.egenix.com/company/contact/
>>>>
>>>
>>
> 

-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
Director
Python Software Foundation
http://www.python.org/psf/


From qt at tempo-consulting.fr  Fri Oct  4 16:26:52 2013
From: qt at tempo-consulting.fr (Quentin THEURET)
Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2013 16:26:52 +0200
Subject: Add PyCon FR on Python Events calendar
Message-ID: <524ED02C.5020800@tempo-consulting.fr>

Hello Pythonist,

Does it possible to add the PyCon FR event on the Python Events calendar
(http://pycon.org/#calendar) ?

Information about the meeting :
  * Name : PyCon FR
  * Location : Strasbourg, France
  * Dates/Times : 26-29 October, 2013
  * URL : events at pycon.org


Kind regards,

-- 
Quentin THEURET

TeMPO Consulting
9, rue du Parc
67205 Oberhausbergen
France

http://www.tempo-consulting.fr
Tel : +33 3 88 56 82 18
Fax : +33 3 88 56 46 64 


From mal at egenix.com  Fri Oct  4 20:32:02 2013
From: mal at egenix.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2013 20:32:02 +0200
Subject: Add PyCon FR on Python Events calendar
In-Reply-To: <524ED02C.5020800@tempo-consulting.fr>
References: <524ED02C.5020800@tempo-consulting.fr>
Message-ID: <524F09A2.3060606@egenix.com>

Added, thanks.

On 04.10.2013 16:26, Quentin THEURET wrote:
> Hello Pythonist,
> 
> Does it possible to add the PyCon FR event on the Python Events calendar
> (http://pycon.org/#calendar) ?
> 
> Information about the meeting :
>   * Name : PyCon FR
>   * Location : Strasbourg, France
>   * Dates/Times : 26-29 October, 2013
>   * URL : events at pycon.org
> 
> 
> Kind regards,
> 

-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
eGenix.com

Professional Python Services directly from the Source  (#1, Oct 04 2013)
>>> Python Projects, Consulting and Support ...   http://www.egenix.com/
>>> mxODBC.Zope/Plone.Database.Adapter ...       http://zope.egenix.com/
>>> mxODBC, mxDateTime, mxTextTools ...        http://python.egenix.com/
________________________________________________________________________
2013-10-14: PyCon DE 2013, Cologne, Germany ...            10 days to go

::::: Try our mxODBC.Connect Python Database Interface for free ! ::::::

   eGenix.com Software, Skills and Services GmbH  Pastor-Loeh-Str.48
    D-40764 Langenfeld, Germany. CEO Dipl.-Math. Marc-Andre Lemburg
           Registered at Amtsgericht Duesseldorf: HRB 46611
               http://www.egenix.com/company/contact/


From mal at egenix.com  Fri Oct  4 20:32:02 2013
From: mal at egenix.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2013 20:32:02 +0200
Subject: Add PyCon FR on Python Events calendar
In-Reply-To: <524ED02C.5020800@tempo-consulting.fr>
References: <524ED02C.5020800@tempo-consulting.fr>
Message-ID: <524F09A2.3060606@egenix.com>

Added, thanks.

On 04.10.2013 16:26, Quentin THEURET wrote:
> Hello Pythonist,
> 
> Does it possible to add the PyCon FR event on the Python Events calendar
> (http://pycon.org/#calendar) ?
> 
> Information about the meeting :
>   * Name : PyCon FR
>   * Location : Strasbourg, France
>   * Dates/Times : 26-29 October, 2013
>   * URL : events at pycon.org
> 
> 
> Kind regards,
> 

-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
eGenix.com

Professional Python Services directly from the Source  (#1, Oct 04 2013)
>>> Python Projects, Consulting and Support ...   http://www.egenix.com/
>>> mxODBC.Zope/Plone.Database.Adapter ...       http://zope.egenix.com/
>>> mxODBC, mxDateTime, mxTextTools ...        http://python.egenix.com/
________________________________________________________________________
2013-10-14: PyCon DE 2013, Cologne, Germany ...            10 days to go

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From ntoll at ntoll.org  Tue Oct  8 18:21:00 2013
From: ntoll at ntoll.org (Nicholas H.Tollervey)
Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2013 17:21:00 +0100
Subject: London Python Code Dojo on the Python User Group Calendar
Message-ID: <525430EC.2080708@ntoll.org>

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Hey,

So I just found the PUG calendar and, as per instructions on the wiki,
pinging you an email to get us added.

We meet on the first Thursday of every month except for August (and
sometimes January if the new year bank holidays are all a mess - but I
wouldn't worry too much about that). We announce the dojo on the
python-uk mailing list and tickets usually take only hours to sell out.

If you need any more information please don't hesitate to get in touch.

Lots of love and sloppy kisses,

The London Python Code Dojo Cat Herders.
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From mal at egenix.com  Tue Oct  8 22:53:29 2013
From: mal at egenix.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2013 22:53:29 +0200
Subject: London Python Code Dojo on the Python User Group Calendar
In-Reply-To: <525430EC.2080708@ntoll.org>
References: <525430EC.2080708@ntoll.org>
Message-ID: <525470C9.1010001@egenix.com>

Hello Nicholas,

do you have a URL we can reference in the entries or should we just
point to the Twitter account ?

Thanks,
-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
eGenix.com

Professional Python Services directly from the Source  (#1, Oct 08 2013)
>>> Python Projects, Consulting and Support ...   http://www.egenix.com/
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>>> mxODBC, mxDateTime, mxTextTools ...        http://python.egenix.com/
________________________________________________________________________
2013-10-14: PyCon DE 2013, Cologne, Germany ...             6 days to go

::::: Try our mxODBC.Connect Python Database Interface for free ! ::::::

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    D-40764 Langenfeld, Germany. CEO Dipl.-Math. Marc-Andre Lemburg
           Registered at Amtsgericht Duesseldorf: HRB 46611
               http://www.egenix.com/company/contact/

On 08.10.2013 18:21, Nicholas H.Tollervey wrote:
> Hey,
> 
> So I just found the PUG calendar and, as per instructions on the wiki,
> pinging you an email to get us added.
> 
> We meet on the first Thursday of every month except for August (and
> sometimes January if the new year bank holidays are all a mess - but I
> wouldn't worry too much about that). We announce the dojo on the
> python-uk mailing list and tickets usually take only hours to sell out.
> 
> If you need any more information please don't hesitate to get in touch.
> 
> Lots of love and sloppy kisses,
> 
> The London Python Code Dojo Cat Herders.
> 


From mal at egenix.com  Tue Oct  8 22:53:29 2013
From: mal at egenix.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2013 22:53:29 +0200
Subject: London Python Code Dojo on the Python User Group Calendar
In-Reply-To: <525430EC.2080708@ntoll.org>
References: <525430EC.2080708@ntoll.org>
Message-ID: <525470C9.1010001@egenix.com>

Hello Nicholas,

do you have a URL we can reference in the entries or should we just
point to the Twitter account ?

Thanks,
-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
eGenix.com

Professional Python Services directly from the Source  (#1, Oct 08 2013)
>>> Python Projects, Consulting and Support ...   http://www.egenix.com/
>>> mxODBC.Zope/Plone.Database.Adapter ...       http://zope.egenix.com/
>>> mxODBC, mxDateTime, mxTextTools ...        http://python.egenix.com/
________________________________________________________________________
2013-10-14: PyCon DE 2013, Cologne, Germany ...             6 days to go

::::: Try our mxODBC.Connect Python Database Interface for free ! ::::::

   eGenix.com Software, Skills and Services GmbH  Pastor-Loeh-Str.48
    D-40764 Langenfeld, Germany. CEO Dipl.-Math. Marc-Andre Lemburg
           Registered at Amtsgericht Duesseldorf: HRB 46611
               http://www.egenix.com/company/contact/

On 08.10.2013 18:21, Nicholas H.Tollervey wrote:
> Hey,
> 
> So I just found the PUG calendar and, as per instructions on the wiki,
> pinging you an email to get us added.
> 
> We meet on the first Thursday of every month except for August (and
> sometimes January if the new year bank holidays are all a mess - but I
> wouldn't worry too much about that). We announce the dojo on the
> python-uk mailing list and tickets usually take only hours to sell out.
> 
> If you need any more information please don't hesitate to get in touch.
> 
> Lots of love and sloppy kisses,
> 
> The London Python Code Dojo Cat Herders.
> 


From mal at egenix.com  Tue Oct  8 23:02:19 2013
From: mal at egenix.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2013 23:02:19 +0200
Subject: London Python Code Dojo on the Python User Group Calendar
In-Reply-To: <525470C9.1010001@egenix.com>
References: <525430EC.2080708@ntoll.org> <525470C9.1010001@egenix.com>
Message-ID: <525472DB.6080301@egenix.com>

On 08.10.2013 22:53, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
> Hello Nicholas,
> 
> do you have a URL we can reference in the entries or should we just
> point to the Twitter account ?

I've used this description for now:

Please check the LPCD Twitter account for details on location, date and times.

with a link to the twitter account at https://twitter.com/ldnpydojo

Thanks,
-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
eGenix.com

Professional Python Services directly from the Source  (#1, Oct 08 2013)
>>> Python Projects, Consulting and Support ...   http://www.egenix.com/
>>> mxODBC.Zope/Plone.Database.Adapter ...       http://zope.egenix.com/
>>> mxODBC, mxDateTime, mxTextTools ...        http://python.egenix.com/
________________________________________________________________________
2013-10-14: PyCon DE 2013, Cologne, Germany ...             6 days to go

::::: Try our mxODBC.Connect Python Database Interface for free ! ::::::

   eGenix.com Software, Skills and Services GmbH  Pastor-Loeh-Str.48
    D-40764 Langenfeld, Germany. CEO Dipl.-Math. Marc-Andre Lemburg
           Registered at Amtsgericht Duesseldorf: HRB 46611
               http://www.egenix.com/company/contact/


From mal at egenix.com  Tue Oct  8 23:02:19 2013
From: mal at egenix.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2013 23:02:19 +0200
Subject: London Python Code Dojo on the Python User Group Calendar
In-Reply-To: <525470C9.1010001@egenix.com>
References: <525430EC.2080708@ntoll.org> <525470C9.1010001@egenix.com>
Message-ID: <525472DB.6080301@egenix.com>

On 08.10.2013 22:53, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
> Hello Nicholas,
> 
> do you have a URL we can reference in the entries or should we just
> point to the Twitter account ?

I've used this description for now:

Please check the LPCD Twitter account for details on location, date and times.

with a link to the twitter account at https://twitter.com/ldnpydojo

Thanks,
-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
eGenix.com

Professional Python Services directly from the Source  (#1, Oct 08 2013)
>>> Python Projects, Consulting and Support ...   http://www.egenix.com/
>>> mxODBC.Zope/Plone.Database.Adapter ...       http://zope.egenix.com/
>>> mxODBC, mxDateTime, mxTextTools ...        http://python.egenix.com/
________________________________________________________________________
2013-10-14: PyCon DE 2013, Cologne, Germany ...             6 days to go

::::: Try our mxODBC.Connect Python Database Interface for free ! ::::::

   eGenix.com Software, Skills and Services GmbH  Pastor-Loeh-Str.48
    D-40764 Langenfeld, Germany. CEO Dipl.-Math. Marc-Andre Lemburg
           Registered at Amtsgericht Duesseldorf: HRB 46611
               http://www.egenix.com/company/contact/


From ntoll at ntoll.org  Wed Oct  9 09:46:31 2013
From: ntoll at ntoll.org (Nicholas H.Tollervey)
Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2013 08:46:31 +0100
Subject: London Python Code Dojo on the Python User Group Calendar
In-Reply-To: <525472DB.6080301@egenix.com>
References: <525430EC.2080708@ntoll.org> <525470C9.1010001@egenix.com>
	<525472DB.6080301@egenix.com>
Message-ID: <525509D7.4010204@ntoll.org>

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On 08/10/13 22:02, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
> On 08.10.2013 22:53, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
>> Hello Nicholas,
>> 
>> do you have a URL we can reference in the entries or should we
>> just point to the Twitter account ?
> 
> I've used this description for now:
> 
> Please check the LPCD Twitter account for details on location, date
> and times.
> 
> with a link to the twitter account at
> https://twitter.com/ldnpydojo
> 
> Thanks,
> 

Hi Marc-Andre,

Great stuff, that's *exactly* what's needed. Although adding something
about the announcements on the python-uk mailing list would mean every
avenue is covered. ;-)

Many thanks,

Nicholas.
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From ntoll at ntoll.org  Wed Oct  9 09:46:31 2013
From: ntoll at ntoll.org (Nicholas H.Tollervey)
Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2013 08:46:31 +0100
Subject: London Python Code Dojo on the Python User Group Calendar
In-Reply-To: <525472DB.6080301@egenix.com>
References: <525430EC.2080708@ntoll.org> <525470C9.1010001@egenix.com>
	<525472DB.6080301@egenix.com>
Message-ID: <525509D7.4010204@ntoll.org>

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On 08/10/13 22:02, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
> On 08.10.2013 22:53, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
>> Hello Nicholas,
>> 
>> do you have a URL we can reference in the entries or should we
>> just point to the Twitter account ?
> 
> I've used this description for now:
> 
> Please check the LPCD Twitter account for details on location, date
> and times.
> 
> with a link to the twitter account at
> https://twitter.com/ldnpydojo
> 
> Thanks,
> 

Hi Marc-Andre,

Great stuff, that's *exactly* what's needed. Although adding something
about the announcements on the python-uk mailing list would mean every
avenue is covered. ;-)

Many thanks,

Nicholas.
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From mal at egenix.com  Wed Oct  9 12:38:41 2013
From: mal at egenix.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2013 12:38:41 +0200
Subject: London Python Code Dojo on the Python User Group Calendar
In-Reply-To: <525509D7.4010204@ntoll.org>
References: <525430EC.2080708@ntoll.org>
	<525470C9.1010001@egenix.com>	<525472DB.6080301@egenix.com>
	<525509D7.4010204@ntoll.org>
Message-ID: <52553231.4010503@egenix.com>

On 09.10.2013 09:46, Nicholas H.Tollervey wrote:
> On 08/10/13 22:02, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
>> On 08.10.2013 22:53, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
>>> Hello Nicholas,
>>>
>>> do you have a URL we can reference in the entries or should we
>>> just point to the Twitter account ?
> 
>> I've used this description for now:
> 
>> Please check the LPCD Twitter account for details on location, date
>> and times.
> 
>> with a link to the twitter account at
>> https://twitter.com/ldnpydojo
> 
>> Thanks,
> 
> 
> Hi Marc-Andre,
> 
> Great stuff, that's *exactly* what's needed. Although adding something
> about the announcements on the python-uk mailing list would mean every
> avenue is covered. ;-)

Ok, added a link to the list as well.

Cheers,
-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
eGenix.com

Professional Python Services directly from the Source  (#1, Oct 09 2013)
>>> Python Projects, Consulting and Support ...   http://www.egenix.com/
>>> mxODBC.Zope/Plone.Database.Adapter ...       http://zope.egenix.com/
>>> mxODBC, mxDateTime, mxTextTools ...        http://python.egenix.com/
________________________________________________________________________
2013-10-14: PyCon DE 2013, Cologne, Germany ...             5 days to go

::::: Try our mxODBC.Connect Python Database Interface for free ! ::::::

   eGenix.com Software, Skills and Services GmbH  Pastor-Loeh-Str.48
    D-40764 Langenfeld, Germany. CEO Dipl.-Math. Marc-Andre Lemburg
           Registered at Amtsgericht Duesseldorf: HRB 46611
               http://www.egenix.com/company/contact/


From mal at egenix.com  Wed Oct  9 12:38:41 2013
From: mal at egenix.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2013 12:38:41 +0200
Subject: London Python Code Dojo on the Python User Group Calendar
In-Reply-To: <525509D7.4010204@ntoll.org>
References: <525430EC.2080708@ntoll.org>
	<525470C9.1010001@egenix.com>	<525472DB.6080301@egenix.com>
	<525509D7.4010204@ntoll.org>
Message-ID: <52553231.4010503@egenix.com>

On 09.10.2013 09:46, Nicholas H.Tollervey wrote:
> On 08/10/13 22:02, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
>> On 08.10.2013 22:53, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
>>> Hello Nicholas,
>>>
>>> do you have a URL we can reference in the entries or should we
>>> just point to the Twitter account ?
> 
>> I've used this description for now:
> 
>> Please check the LPCD Twitter account for details on location, date
>> and times.
> 
>> with a link to the twitter account at
>> https://twitter.com/ldnpydojo
> 
>> Thanks,
> 
> 
> Hi Marc-Andre,
> 
> Great stuff, that's *exactly* what's needed. Although adding something
> about the announcements on the python-uk mailing list would mean every
> avenue is covered. ;-)

Ok, added a link to the list as well.

Cheers,
-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
eGenix.com

Professional Python Services directly from the Source  (#1, Oct 09 2013)
>>> Python Projects, Consulting and Support ...   http://www.egenix.com/
>>> mxODBC.Zope/Plone.Database.Adapter ...       http://zope.egenix.com/
>>> mxODBC, mxDateTime, mxTextTools ...        http://python.egenix.com/
________________________________________________________________________
2013-10-14: PyCon DE 2013, Cologne, Germany ...             5 days to go

::::: Try our mxODBC.Connect Python Database Interface for free ! ::::::

   eGenix.com Software, Skills and Services GmbH  Pastor-Loeh-Str.48
    D-40764 Langenfeld, Germany. CEO Dipl.-Math. Marc-Andre Lemburg
           Registered at Amtsgericht Duesseldorf: HRB 46611
               http://www.egenix.com/company/contact/


From za at python.or.id  Tue Oct 22 11:00:29 2013
From: za at python.or.id (Zaki Akhmad)
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2013 16:00:29 +0700
Subject: Python Indonesia October Meetup
Message-ID: <CAGrappbOM2aWpuwP-OSUAGt8MwxKULzAjJxhGC1DexbjcLqTBA@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Python Events maintainer,

Python Indonesia will have October meetup. Here are the details:

Event name: Python Indonesia Meetup
Location: at Suitmedia Office, Jakarta
Time: Saturday, October 26th, 09.00 - 13.30 (UTC+7)
URL: http://www.python.or.id/2013/09/kopi-darat-python-indonesia-oktober-2013.html

Please add it at python user group calendar.

Regards,

-- 
Zaki Akhmad
PlanPin | Planet Python Indonesia
http://planet.python.or.id


From shhubhamsharma at gmail.com  Wed Oct 23 22:24:09 2013
From: shhubhamsharma at gmail.com (Shubham Sharma)
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 01:54:09 +0530
Subject: Embedding Python Event calender on Dehradun Python's Website
Message-ID: <CAOpjUN=aaa4FSr91=qzVCb0vmO6pR2yxHUmX1beKsE-vbOoxoQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,
I am shubham admin of http://dehradunpython.com i want to embed the
event calender on Dehradun Python's website. Dehradun Python is local
user group of Python in Dehradun ,India.


From mal at egenix.com  Thu Oct 24 18:49:47 2013
From: mal at egenix.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 18:49:47 +0200
Subject: Embedding Python Event calender on Dehradun Python's Website
In-Reply-To: <CAOpjUN=aaa4FSr91=qzVCb0vmO6pR2yxHUmX1beKsE-vbOoxoQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAOpjUN=aaa4FSr91=qzVCb0vmO6pR2yxHUmX1beKsE-vbOoxoQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <52694FAB.3070501@egenix.com>

On 23.10.2013 22:24, Shubham Sharma wrote:
> Hello,
> I am shubham admin of http://dehradunpython.com i want to embed the
> event calender on Dehradun Python's website. Dehradun Python is local
> user group of Python in Dehradun ,India.

Hello Shubham,

thanks for the notification. I've added your site to the calendar
wiki page:

https://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonEventsCalendar#Known_sites_embedding_the_calendars

Regards,
-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
eGenix.com

Professional Python Services directly from the Source
>>> Python/Zope Consulting and Support ...        http://www.egenix.com/
>>> mxODBC.Zope.Database.Adapter ...             http://zope.egenix.com/
>>> mxODBC, mxDateTime, mxTextTools ...        http://python.egenix.com/
________________________________________________________________________

::: Try our new mxODBC.Connect Python Database Interface for free ! ::::


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    D-40764 Langenfeld, Germany. CEO Dipl.-Math. Marc-Andre Lemburg
           Registered at Amtsgericht Duesseldorf: HRB 46611
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From mal at egenix.com  Thu Oct 24 18:49:47 2013
From: mal at egenix.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 18:49:47 +0200
Subject: Embedding Python Event calender on Dehradun Python's Website
In-Reply-To: <CAOpjUN=aaa4FSr91=qzVCb0vmO6pR2yxHUmX1beKsE-vbOoxoQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAOpjUN=aaa4FSr91=qzVCb0vmO6pR2yxHUmX1beKsE-vbOoxoQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <52694FAB.3070501@egenix.com>

On 23.10.2013 22:24, Shubham Sharma wrote:
> Hello,
> I am shubham admin of http://dehradunpython.com i want to embed the
> event calender on Dehradun Python's website. Dehradun Python is local
> user group of Python in Dehradun ,India.

Hello Shubham,

thanks for the notification. I've added your site to the calendar
wiki page:

https://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonEventsCalendar#Known_sites_embedding_the_calendars

Regards,
-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
eGenix.com

Professional Python Services directly from the Source
>>> Python/Zope Consulting and Support ...        http://www.egenix.com/
>>> mxODBC.Zope.Database.Adapter ...             http://zope.egenix.com/
>>> mxODBC, mxDateTime, mxTextTools ...        http://python.egenix.com/
________________________________________________________________________

::: Try our new mxODBC.Connect Python Database Interface for free ! ::::


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    D-40764 Langenfeld, Germany. CEO Dipl.-Math. Marc-Andre Lemburg
           Registered at Amtsgericht Duesseldorf: HRB 46611
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