[python-events] Tagging online event and Recordings available dates

[dn]

On 23/03/2022 23.30, Marc-Andre Lemburg wrote:
> On 23.03.2022 08:59, Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer wrote:
>> Greetings,
>>
>> DL Neil has few concerns
>>
>> 1. Events on the calendar don't appear on the website.
>> Suggested to contact the website team
> 
> Not sure what you mean. The events are published in this section
> of the website:
> 
> https://www.python.org/events/
> 
> There are two sections: user group entries and event entries
> (for larger events such as conferences)

This has been explained (separate email thread M-AL and dn) as a fault
in the cron-job which collects data from the Google spreadsheet to
display it on the web-pages.

Now fixed. (thanks!)


>> 2. Events online don't show clearly on the calendar. Suggests
>> adding the [online] tag before such events
> 
> We always list online events as such and the location is listed on
> the website (see above).

It is not apparent to those who do not use Google products, that the
spreadsheet entries are clickable. Mea culpa!

The idea that a virtual-meeting has a location* - needed for
registration, and that a map will be produced regardless, is illogical -
even misleading.

Perhaps the meeting's time-zone would be helpful - but the
potential-attendee's need is reasonably satisfied by the "UTC" displayed
on the web-site.

The spreadsheet is defined as 'London time', with no obvious way
(except, again, to those 'in the know') to change it to whatever may be
more logical for the user, life could be made easier...
(thus when reading that I'm juggling: local time, that converted into
UTC, and then 'London' aka "BST")


* "hybrid meetings" where some gather at 'the' location (or more than
one location), and others attend on-line, is another possibility - and
one which we are exploring for our post-COVID PUG...

Attempting to 'move with the times', we believe such to be an important
consideration, given that the work-from-home movement has resulted in
many people no-longer working 'in the office', and  five-days per week -
and other amended patterns of 'work', plus others taking a conservative
attitude to socialisation and the possibility of infection.


>> 3. Proposes announcing recordings available date on the calendar.
>> For my part, i don't think it aligns with the events team spirit but brought it 
>> nevertheless
> 
> This is not the purpose of the events calendars. We just want to make
> people aware of events being organized around Python and point to them.
> 
> Things like when to register, CFP, recordings, etc. are not within
> the scope of the events calendars.
>  Cheers,

That's a reasonable statement.

One could even suggest: 'follow the PyCon example(s) and lodge all with
YouTube'.

However, in the same way that effort is invested in providing a
(valuable) centralised source for event information in-advance, would it
not be helpful to have the same for meeting-recordings?

NB I recall there is/was a web-page for this. Last time I looked, it was
completely out-of-date and appeared as if deprecated.

Who would deal with the above? It would seem that the Events group would
be a logical choice, given that event-organisers are already
communicating with you. This would add to the advanced-notice, a
post-event notice. (as well as adding 'more work')

NB I'm not necessarily suggesting that videos be displayed on the Events
web-pages. Although a 'pointer entry' to such follow-up could work quite
well - in the same manner as the "You just missed..." section (whose
current purpose seems dubious).


I present a PUG-leader's point-of-view. Unlike many other user-groups,
we moved on-line as soon as COVID-precautions precluded traditional
meetings. Those that didn't face the problem that re-starting is almost
as difficult as building an entirely new group. Whereas, we have
maintained momentum and community! Accordingly, our geographic location
has become less-and-less relevant, with an increasing number of
non-locals* joining our virtual events. Such a phenomenon must have even
greater potential for EUR- and US-based groups. (you can't remove
oneself much further from any other groups (in distance or time-zone)
than our location!)

*~40% of the attendees at our last meeting were either 'international'
or from out-of-town - which doesn't count those (like myself) who likely
would not have attended had we been required to make a special trip to,
or be working near, a physical meeting-location!


It is not for me to 'demand' something from the committee. Please accept
the above as ideas (good or bad). If I can provide further information
relating to such points-of-view, please feel-free to ask...

Once again, thanks for 'persuading' the system to work again!
-- 
Regards,
=dn