[PyAthens] spam filter

Orestis Markou orestis at orestis.gr
Sat Feb 6 19:46:49 CET 2010


On 6 Feb 2010, at 12:08, Antonis Christofides wrote:

> On Fri, 05 Feb 2010 17:16:25 +0200
> Aravanis Konstantinos <kos.arav at gmail.com> wrote:
>> oson afora ta google-groups, nai exoun auto to provlima, alla linete 
>> apla min afinontas tous kainourgious xristes na postaroun prin
>> egkrineis ta minimata tous...
>> an deis oti postaroun sosta... tote tous kaneis approve kai tous
>> afineis na postaroun xoris moderation...
>> Etsi de tha exeis kanena provlima... etsi kai allios ta spam einai
>> mia fora to 2mino sinithos... an deis oti kapoios stelnei ena akuro
>> minima me ti mailing list sou ton diagrafeis...!
> 
> (Episynaptw ena gz me to elliniko keimeno poy parathetw se greeklish
> parakatw.)
> 
> Den einai toso apla ta pragmata. Eimai moderator s' ena
> google group poy einai rythmismeno os ano: mporoyn na steiloyn email
> mono osoi einai meli, kai otan ena neo melos stelnei proti fora email
> sto group, to minyma stamataei gia moderation. O moderator sti synexeia
> exei kamposes epiloges, alla sto 99% ton periptoseon eite tha epilexei
> "spam" (=discard+ban) eite "always allow". Entoytois yparxoyn bots (i
> mipos einai anthropoi; prepei na yparxei captcha) poy pane kai
> grafontai stis listes kai stelnoyn spam, me apotelesma na yparxoyn 3-4
> spam tin ebdomada, poy einai enas mi ameliteos fortos gia toys
> moderators. 
> 
> To thema einai pos opoy kai na pame meionektimata tha yparxoyn. Epomenos
> dialegoyme ena serbis poy einai ikanopoiitiko kai beltionetai, kai
> menoyme s' ayto oso synexizei na beltionetai me ikanopoiitiko rythmo.

Gia mena to megalytero meionektima tis google einai oti an kati paei strava, den yparxei periptosi na breis an8ropo na miliseis. Toulaxiston sto python.org esteila ena email ston postmaster kai mou apantise tin idia mera.

> Yparxei ki ena thema ideologias gia mena. Ayti ti stigmi o Google exei
> kopia oloy to web, elegxei tin prosbasi oloy toy planiti sto web
> afoy se megalo bathmo i prosbasi ayti einai meso toy google search, exei
> ta email mas, exei ta statistika mas (analytics), toys xartes mas, to
> logismiko mas (code), se ligo tha exei kai ta sites mas. Ayto einai
> epikindyno. O Google einai kati poy me fobizei poly perissotero apo ti
> Microsoft. To oti i Microsoft itan "kaki" apo tote poy ti thymomaste eno
> o Google einai "kalos" den leei kati. Oi etaireies den exoyn ithiki, kai
> o Google tha papsei na einai "kalos" otan i "kalosyni" tha papsei na ton
> symferei (kai den argei ayti i mera).
> 
> Gi' ayto ego kano o,ti mporo gia na elattoso tin exartisi moy apo to
> Google. THa balo to logismiko moy sto bitbucket, tha protimiso ta
> statistika moy me to awstats esto ki an den einai toso kala, kai an
> thelo na pao stin istoselida toy turbo gears kai den xero poia einai
> tote tha pao sto sxetiko limma sti wikipedia gia na to bro. Prospatho na
> prosfero stoys xristes moy kalo email service (an kai den mporo na
> ftaso sta epipeda toy Google). Ayto den simainei oti den xrisimopoio
> para poly to Google, alla prospatho synexos na to kano exontas
> syneidisi toy ti simainei.

Exeis dikio pou anisixeis... Ego ta email mou ta exo sto Google Apps logo eukolias (opoia alli lysi eixa brei apaitouse poly douleia apo mena), alla me anhsyxei i oli katastasi.

> Epomenos, mia lista gia python mia xara filoxeneitai sto python.org,
> to opoio kathos beltionetai einai profanes oti tha dimioyrgisei
> prosorina problimata, me ta opoia kalo einai na zisoyme mexri na
> lythoyn (sto opoio mporoyme na symbaloyme exigontas to problima stoys
> diaxeiristes).

Gia na doume an 8a ly8ei to provlima. Kapoia meli eixan parapone8ei gia provlimata encoding, yparxoun akoma?

Orestis


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