[Python-ideas] binding vs rebinding
spir
denis.spir at free.fr
Fri Feb 6 11:31:45 CET 2009
Le Fri, 06 Feb 2009 08:51:14 +1100,
Steven D'Aprano <steve at pearwood.info> a écrit :
> spir wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > I wonder why there is no difference in syntax between binding and rebinding. Obviously, the semantics is not at all the same, for humans as well as for the interpreter:
> > * Binding: create a name, bind a value to it.
> > * Rebinding: change the value bound to the name.
> >
> > I see several advantages for this distinction and no drawback. The first advantage, which imo is worthful enough, is to let syntax match semantics; as the distinction *makes sense*.
>
> In Python, names are stored in namespaces, which are implemented as
> dictionaries. There is a nice correspondence between the syntax of
> namespaces and of dicts:
>
> x = 1 # create a new name and bind it to 1
> x = 2 # rebind name to 2
> del x # delete name
>
> mydict['x'] = 1 # create new key and bind it to 1
> mydict['x'] = 2 # rebind key to 2
> del mydict['x'] # delete key
Good point, yes, this holds for dicts, too!
mydict['x'] := bar # ==>
KeyError: mydict['x'] does not exist.
mydict['x'] = 1 # create new key and bind it to 1
mydict['x'] := 2 # (syntax suggestion) rebind key to 2
mydict['x'] = foo # ==>
KeyError: mydict['x'] already exists.
> Also, your suggestion is conceptually the same as requiring declarations:
>
> x = 1 # declare x with value 1
> x := 2 # assign to x
Hem... well, you can actually see it like that. The main difference is that, unlike in "declarative" languages, there is no declaration without binding.
var foo; int i # not in python
So that I would rather call that 'initialization' (== declaration + first binding) as opposed to 'rebinding'.
> Finally, what should we do here?
>
> if flag:
> x = 2
> print foo(x)
> x = 3 # is this a rebinding or a new binding?
> print bar(x)
Interesting, thank you. Now comes on stage the naming problem. What is here expressed is an optional additional step, right? This is written as a special case where whatever is symbolized with 'x' will take a specific value. Later the program enters back the main flow and this thing will have a standard value. I assert that the same name should not be used for both special and standard cases. This imo shows a lack of distinction. Using a different name will make things clearer:
if flag: # 'flag' expresses a special case
flag_x = 2 # possibly reuse the case name as prefix
print foo(flag_x)
x = 3 # is this a rebinding or a new binding?
print bar(x)
I am rather sure that in any concrete model, once the distinction is made clear, then obvious naming can be found.
if ambiguity:
ambiguity_message = 'ambiguity warning: "%s"\n' % ambiguous_expr
print warning_format(message)
message = "\t%s\n" % line_body
print standard_format(message)
Probably most name rebindings rather express a lack of distinction that makes the code obscure. Haven't you ever read things like:
config = "config.txt" # string: name
config = open(config) # file object
config = config.read() # string: content
config = config.lines() # array of strings
config = parse(config) # e.g. custom object
Denis
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