[Python-ideas] Making colons optional?
Lie Ryan
lie.1296 at gmail.com
Tue Feb 10 05:19:41 CET 2009
On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 03:17:33 -0330, Riobard Zhan wrote:
>
> The original context is that you thought it's not worth a "big/major"
> change to make colons optional because we get nothing, then I asked by
> comparison what do we get by making "print" a function (a "bigger"
> change for me) when we really have the option to just add a new built-
> in function with a slightly different name.
No, it is not an option because 1) it is duplication of feature 2) having
two different print construct that have subtle differences confuses the
hell out of newbies 3) people won't use that new built-in function 4) if
people don't use the new built-in function, overriding print would
involve some dark magic 5) to override print statement you need to mess
with sys.stdout, which is messy as you need to keep a reference to the
original sys.stdout or face infinite recursion.
The case for colon is different from the case of semicolon. Statements
between semicolons have sibling relationship, while the statement before
a colon and the statements after the colon have parent-child relationship.
Sibling relationship is not significant enough to require anything more
than a newline or -- in the case of several statements in one line -- a
semicolon. Parent-Child relationship is much more important and having
colon before the child statements makes it visually easy to distinguish
the parent and children.
The case for you requesting optional colon is like asking for code like
this to be legal:
def foo(bar):
print 'foo'
print 'bar'
spit()
antigravity(bar)
print 'koo'
which would be interpreted as
def foo(bar):
print 'foo'
print 'bar'
spit()
antigravity(bar)
print 'koo'
and saying: "consistent indentation is unnecessary as computer can
syntactically distinguish them as long as the number spaces is equal or
more than the first indentation of the suite"
yeah, although computers can distinguish them easily, human can't.
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