[Python-ideas] stdlib with its own release cycle ?

[geremy condra]

On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 7:08 PM, Michael Foord <fuzzyman at gmail.com> wrote:
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> 2009/10/26 geremy condra <debatem1 at gmail.com>
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>> On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 2:07 PM, Michael Foord <fuzzyman at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> > 2009/10/26 geremy condra <debatem1 at gmail.com>
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>> >> [snip...]
>> >> > Firstly, although you are correct that .NET supports a managed
>> >> > variant
>> >> > of
>> >> > C++ (that runs 'on .NET') and it is the same set of tools that you
>> >> > also
>> >> > use
>> >> > to compile native code (unmanaged C/C++) this has nothing to do with
>> >> > .NET.
>> >> > Python for Windows is compiled with the Visual C++ compiler but it
>> >> > doesn't
>> >> > run on .NET. .NET doesn't even use the MSVCRT that compiled native
>> >> > code
>> >> > links against - something that causes Ironclad 'difficulties' when
>> >> > managed
>> >> > and native code need to share file handles.
>> >> >
>> >> > Ironclad itself has binary compatibility with Python C extensions,
>> >> > they
>> >> > don't need to be recompiled. It uses the .NET FFI (P/Invoke) to work
>> >> > with
>> >> > these extensions and on the JVM would use its FFI.
>> >> >
>> >> > My understanding is that Android now allows native code, so if Dalvik
>> >> > has
>> >> > the same FFI APIs and you can compile the Python extensions for it
>> >> > *and*
>> >> > Jython runs on Dalvik (not currently the case I believe?) then it
>> >> > could
>> >> > work...
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> No need. Java has the Java Native Interface, which is supported in the
>> >> Android Native Development Kit.
>> >>
>> >
>> > No need for what? If you are using Jython *and* you want to use Python C
>> > extensions then something like Ironclad would be needed.
>> >
>> > If you aren't using Jython then no need - but there are lots of good
>> > reasons
>> > for *wanting* to use Jython.
>> >
>> > Michael
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>> Sorry, I wasn't clear- there's no need to get Jython running on Android,
>> since you can wrap the class libraries using JNI.
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> There are all sorts of reasons to want to use Jython and being on a
> fundamentally Java oriented platform sounds like just about the best reason
> I can imagine.
>
> Michael

But Jython doesn't run on Dalvik, so its kind of a nonissue.

Geremy Condra