[Python-ideas] Moving development out of the standard library

Ian Bicking ianb at colorstudy.com
Mon Jun 7 21:20:41 CEST 2010

On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 1:52 PM, Antoine Pitrou <solipsis at pitrou.net> wrote:

>  > I say there is consensus because as far as I know anything substantial
> has a
> > maintained version outside the standard library; argparse is implicitly,
> > unittest is unittest2, ElementTree always has maintained a separate
> > existence, simplejson implicitly.
> "Anything substantial" is more than exagerated. The modules you are
> mentioning are exceptions, two of which may even be temporary (argparse
> and unittest2). Most sdtlib modules don't have external releases, and
> many of them are still "substantial".

Most other modules are very old.  In cases where it hasn't happened, e.g.,
doctest in 2.4, I at least personally have had to backport that module on my

> > 1. How will distutils2 updates be made available between Python releases?
> > 2. How will distutils2 features be made available in older Python
> releases?
> Why are you expecting any of these to happen? I don't know what Tarek
> intends to do in that respect, but he certainly doesn't have any moral
> obligation to do external releases.

distutils2 won't be in 2.7 at least, and any packaging system not available
for Python 2 would be irrelevant.

Ian Bicking  |  http://blog.ianbicking.org
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