[Python-ideas] Moving development out of the standard library

Tarek Ziadé ziade.tarek at gmail.com
Tue Jun 8 10:08:04 CEST 2010

On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 3:49 AM, Ian Bicking <ianb at colorstudy.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 5:45 PM, Michael Foord <fuzzyman at voidspace.org.uk>
> wrote:
>> On 7 June 2010 22:20, Eric Smith <eric at trueblade.com> wrote:
>>> Tarek Ziadé wrote:
>>>> On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 10:00 PM, Ian Bicking <ianb at colorstudy.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 2:57 PM, Tarek Ziadé <ziade.tarek at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> If there are important bugs we'll have to work around them.
>>>>> If there are added features we'll have to ignore them.
>>>> Not for the bug fixes because they will likely to be backported in all
>>>> versions. (3.3 and 2.7)
>>>> Now for new features, if pip uses the latest 2.x and the latest 3.x
>>>> versions, you will get them.
>>>> I am not sure why you would have to ignore them.  You would probably
>>>> want to
>>>> use the new features when they are released, and still make your code
>>>> work with older versions.
>>> There's no way for the new features to show up in 3.3, is there? You
>>> can't add them to a micro release, and you can't replace a module in the
>>> standard library. I think that's Ian's point.
>> But that's no different to pip using *any* standard library module. If you
>> want to support Python 2.4 you can't use os.path.relpath (or you have to
>> provide it yourself anyway) for example.
> This is part of why I don't care about reforming or modifying what's in the
> standard library now -- I know the constraints well, and they can't be
> changed.  I'm solely concerned about new functionality which need not repeat
> this pattern.

Are you suggesting to freeze the stdlib development ? So you don't
have to deal with
different Python version at your level ?

If so, that doesn't sound right because making the "batteries included" evolve
is part (imho) of the Python spirit, and the constraints we are
talking about right now
is not a huge problem as you seem to think in my opinion. I don't find it
extremely hard to cope with various Python version.

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