[Python-ideas] Transportable indent level markers. /// ; ; ; \\\

Mathias Panzenböck grosser.meister.morti at gmx.net
Thu Dec 15 23:14:45 CET 2011


Need a new why of indentation?

(V) (;,,;) (V)

Why not Zoidberg??


Seriously though, I don't think something like this will be ever accepted. It totally goes against 
pythons idea behind indentation.

On 12/12/2011 11:07 PM, Ron Adam wrote:
>
> While typing this reply to the "Alternate Suite Delineation Syntax For
> Python?" thread.  I realized that having things  all on a single line
> isn't important or needed!!!  Yes, it's not needed for templates, or
> code generation.  So this is an alternate to the alternate.
>
> What is needed is a uniform way to represent indenting that is easy to
> transport to (ie paste into) code with different indent levels.
>
>
> INDENT LEVEL MARKERS:
> ----------------------
> Offer a new way to spell<indent+1>,<indent+0>, and<indent-1>.
>
> To make that work, we need to use unique character sequences that aren't
> already used.  After some thought, I came up with these indent-markers.
>
>      ///   # indent level +1
>      ;;;   # indent level +0
>      \\\   # indent level -1
>
> These are unique enough to be easy to see, and the tripled versions of
> them aren't really that bad as we already have triple quotes, and they
> would be less than the white space they are replacing in most cases.
>
> So this isn't brackets, or braces. It would be just an alternate
> spelling in already valid python. It should not effect the parser,
> grammar, or interpreter in any way if it is done in pythons
> tokenizer.  :-)
>
>
> Reusing some previous examples.
>
> #-----------------------
>
>>     def acc(n) {: s=n; return {: def (i) {: nonlocal s; s += i; return
>>   s}}}
>
> #Standard python...
>
> def acc(n):
>      s=n
>      def add(i):
>          nonlocal s
>          s += i
>          return s
>      return add
>
>
> #Single line version...
>
>    def acc(n): /// s=n ;;; def add(i): /// nonlocal s \
>    ;;; s+=i ;;; return s \\\ return add
>
> (The '\' character should still work.)
>
>
> #Transportable indent level version...
>
> This could also be valid... and could be transportable to any other
> indent level without having to edit it.
>
> (So would the above single line version by adding a ';;;' to the
> beginning.)
>
> ;;; def acc(n):     # indent +0
> /// s = n           # indent +1
> ;;; def add(i):     # indent +0
> /// nonlocal s      # indent +1
> ;;; s += i          # indent +0
> ;;; return s        # indent +0
> \\\ return add      # indent -1
>
> It has the nice properties of being uniform, and being able to be
> inserted easily into any existing code block without having to adjust
> the indent levels.
>
> I believe that these properties are more important than being able to
> put things on a single line and could be a very useful in code
> generating programs. ;-)
>
>
> It may be easy to implement.
>
> This could probably all be done in the tokinze.c get_tok() function,
> where it detects and converts white space to indention levels.  Nothing
> else in python would need to be changed.  The tokenizer already detects
> line continuations and different line endings, so this wouldn't be that
> out of place.
>
> Cheers,
>     Ron
>
>
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