[Python-ideas] New pattern-matching library (was: str.split with multiple individual split characters)

Jesse Noller jnoller at gmail.com
Wed Mar 2 03:47:53 CET 2011


On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 7:47 PM, Guido van Rossum <guido at python.org> wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 4:23 PM, geremy condra <debatem1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Well, you've noticed yourself how many times the same ideas and
>> questions show up on python-ideas, and how often people think they're
>> the first ones to come up with it. You've also noted that there are
>> more productive problems that people interested in contributing could
>> solve. ISTM that there may be an opportunity to kill two birds with
>> one stone in that.
>>
>> Specifically, I'd suggest starting by putting together a wishlist and
>> a do-not-want-list from some of the core devs and putting it in a
>> prominent place on python.org. That should be fairly easy, and if it
>> doesn't seem to be getting the amount of traffic that it would need to
>> succeed there are a number of good ways to tie it in to other venues-
>> adding tickets to the bug tracker, putting it in a newsletter, having
>> this list spit back an email mentioning it whenever someone starts a
>> new thread, mentioning it on slashdot, etc. It might also be a good
>> way to take advantage of the sprints board, by specifically asking
>> groups that have done successful sprints in the past to look at these
>> ideas and see if they can come up with good ways to solve them. None
>> of that requires a huge outlay of cash or resources.
>>
>> If this was successful, it might be a good idea to look at providing
>> some in-Python support for those working on the wishlist items. With
>> the hg transition already underway it seems like this should be fairly
>> easy- just create an hg repo for the project in question and link it
>> to a page on PyPI. Depending on the size of the project, amount of
>> interest, timescale, and stage of maturity development discussion
>> could take place either on the wiki, here, stdlib-sig, in their own
>> google group, etc. Again, nothing requiring substantial outlay or
>> time. The only investment required would be the effort of marketing
>> the list as a whole.
>>
>> From there, it would just be a question of what direction to take. I
>> can envision a lot of projects like this or Raymond Hettinger's idea
>> for a stats module eventually seeing inclusion, but there are also a
>> lot of possible tools where maintaining a relationship similar to the
>> Apache Foundation and its projects might be for the best.
>>
>> I suspect it goes without saying, but I'd be happy to help out with
>> this, and especially with PyCon coming up its a good time to put many
>> eyes on problems like these.
>
> Okay, I get it now. I don't know how many core developers are actually
> following python-ideas. If you are serious about putting time into
> this yourself, maybe the best thing you could do would be to start a
> draft for such a document, put it in the Wiki (with some kind of
> "draft" or "tentative" disclaimer) and post it to python-dev (as well
> as here) to get the core devs' attention.
>

It also might work as an appendix to the dev guide, though that's Brett's call



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