[Python-ideas] Python 3000 TIOBE -3%

[Masklinn]

On 2012-02-11, at 13:53 , Stefan Behnel wrote:
> Well, except for the cases where that didn't work. Remember that implicit
> encoding behaves in a platform dependent way in Python 2, so even if your
> code runs on your machine doesn't mean it will work for anyone else.

Sure, I said it allowed you, not that this allowance actually worked.

>> And using latin-1 in that context looks and feels weird/icky, the file is not
>> encoded using latin-1, the encoding just happens to work to manipulate bytes as
>> ascii text + non-ascii stuff.
> 
> Correct. That's precisely the use case described above.

Yes, but now instead of just ignoring that stuff you have to actively and
knowingly lie to Python to get it to shut up.

> Besides, it's perfectly possible to process bytes in Python 3. You just
> have to open the file in binary mode and do the processing at the byte
> string level.

I think that's the route which should be taken, but (and I'll readily
admit not to have followed the current state of this story) I'd understood
manipulations of bytes-as-ascii-characters-and-stuff to be far more annoying
(in Python 3) than string manipulation even for simple use cases.