[Python-ideas] Logging2 with default NullHandler

Stephen J. Turnbull stephen at xemacs.org
Mon Mar 19 02:49:03 CET 2012

On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 3:09 AM, anatoly techtonik <techtonik at gmail.com> wrote:

> Every problem and use case should have a number, should be
> clearly defined (much better than tracker issue summaries) and
> should have a rating/star system.
> That should be enough for now.

Of course it would.  But ...

You remind me of Dave Hayes, who suggested that spam wasn't a problem.
You just need sufficiently smart MUAs that never allow spam through, and
after a while the spammers will stop trying.

The problem here is that like you, people generally only get time in 15 minute
increments, and very few are able to clearly define things ("much better than
tracker issue summaries") without more time than that.  OTOH, we don't have
an automatic way to do it.  So your proposal AFAICS is DOA.

But I'm willing to put a little time into self-education.  The only
Trac system I
use regularly is MacPorts, and it frankly sucks by the standards you put
forward.  Specifically, although I always search the system for applicable
existing bugs, I miss about 2/3 of them (possibly more; only about 1 in 5 bugs
show up in my search, but about half of my reports end up getting closed as
dupes of existing bugs by the maintainers, and I wouldn't be surprised if some
fraction of relevant bugs are unknown to the maintainers, too.)  Getting to the
current, mostly usable, level of suckitude took about five years.  Since that's
only one example, you can help me out by pointing me to an example of a
well-managed, highly useful, tracker that has the features you propose!

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