[Python-ideas] Reducing language complexity

anatoly techtonik techtonik at gmail.com
Wed Dec 25 10:03:37 CET 2013


On Wed, Dec 25, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Chris Angelico <rosuav at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 25, 2013 at 6:47 PM, anatoly techtonik <techtonik at gmail.com> wrote:
>> One of the ways to reduce language complexity for new people who read
>> you code, is to prepare them for advanced concepts that your code uses
>> beforehand. For example, with the following section:
>>
>> using generators as yield
>>
>>          ^^^ name of this language feature and also help reference
>>                               ^^^ distinct keywords and feature
>> markers that you enable
>
> Yes, and it's great that you can choose what the keyword is! We should
> announce the usage of this thus:
>
> using using as as
> using as as using
>
> and only then use using and as as as and using.
>
> And of course, it's then critical to declare the fact that you're
> using built-in functions, in case they confuse people too. And their
> parameters might be confusing, too; best to acknowledge the exact
> parameter lists that each built-in function uses. Something like this:
>
> using print(*values, sep=' ', end='\n', file=sys.stdout, flush=False)
> using open(file, mode='r', buffering=-1, encoding=None,
>          errors=None, newline=None, closefd=True, opener=None)
>
> Of course, this could get rather long, so we could break things out
> into other files, and put all those 'using' declarations out of the
> way. Rather than create new syntax for all this, I recommend we use
> specially-formatted comments; that way, older versions of Python won't
> be bothered by it. So let's put those two declarations into a file
> called stdio.h, and put this at the top of your Python script:
>
> #include <stdio.h>
>
> I'm sure everyone will agree that this is the best thing for Python.

Unfortunately, the first message with "Language complexity formula" is
deemed to be "not python related" by moderators, so this mail landed
without necessary context. Without understanding what adds to the
language complexity, this discussion looks useless.
--
anatoly t.


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