[Python-ideas] applying the PSF Code of Conduct to this mailing list

[David Mertz]

As I said, Brett and Titus should be the ones making this decision because
they are the list maintainers.  If you wish to maintain a list with
different rules, that is your prerogative.  I think they do a good job with
this one (although I haven't subscribed for very long), and it is their
decision alone.  They should unilaterally set policy, but especially since
this is so obviously in keeping with voted policy of the PSF as a whole
(which *is* democratic, in a certain way).

I dislike the facile notion of "democracy" that some people advocate about
things like this.  Democracy has little place in FLOSS.  There are simply
volunteers who choose to put in whatever specific efforts they can and wish
to.  Just as we don't "democratically vote a patch" to the Python language
(but rather defer, ultimately, to the BDFL), a mailing list is a thing that
specific people have taken responsibility for.



On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 3:44 PM, Steven D'Aprano <steve at pearwood.info> wrote:

> On 05/06/13 09:31, David Mertz wrote:
>
>> My understanding is that Brett and Titus are the list maintainers.
>>
>
> Thanks David, but I misworded the question. Rather than asking *who*, I
> should have asked why Brett and Titus *alone* are making this decision.
>
> Please someone correct me if I am misinformed, but I don't believe that
> this is a private mailing list "owned" by Brett and Titus, emphasis on the
> "private" part. As maintainers, they maintain the list on behalf of the
> community, they are not owners who get to unilaterally set policy for it.
>
> But even if I am wrong, and Brett and Titus are owners in the sense that
> they, and they alone, get to decide what happens with this list, it is
> hardly open, respectful or considerate to impose this sort of sort of
> policy change on the list without giving members the opportunity to express
> their thoughts on the matter first.
>
>
>
>
>  On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 4:20 PM, Steven D'Aprano <steve at pearwood.info>
>> wrote:
>>
>>  On 05/06/13 04:34, Brett Cannon wrote:
>>>
>>>  Titus and I have discussed it and we have decided to apply the PSF's
>>>> Code
>>>> of Conduct (http://hg.python.org/coc) to this mailing list. In a
>>>> nutshell
>>>> everyone should be open, respectful, and considerate to each other, i.e.
>>>> don't be rude.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Excuse my ignorance, but who are you and Titus to make that decision?
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Steven
>>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Steven
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