[Python-ideas] python on mobile

[Wes Turner]

Lots of great links in this thread:

It could be useful to update the Android wiki page

* https://wiki.python.org/moin/Android

# I had started an awesome-python-android/README.rst on GitHub,
# but I think I might've pushed over it and now cannot find it.

On Sat, Dec 27, 2014 at 12:04 AM, Russell Keith-Magee <
russell at keith-magee.com> wrote:

> Hi Daniel,
>
> I've been working on this problem recently; I posted about the idea to
> this very list a few months ago:
>
> https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-ideas/2014-October/029856.html
>
> At the time I posted, I had posted Python builds that work on both Android
> and iOS:
>
> https://github.com/pybee/Python-iOS-support
> https://github.com/pybee/Python-Android-support
>
> and template projects that get you to "hello world" on a mobile platform
> without much effort.
>
> https://github.com/pybee/Python-iOS-template
> https://github.com/pybee/Python-Android-template
>
> I've also tackled the cross-language bridging issue:
>
> https://github.com/pybee/rubicon-objc
> https://github.com/pybee/rubicon-java
>
> and wrapped native widgets up into a cross-platform widget library:
>
> http://pybee.org/toga/
>
> Now - I'm not claiming that these are anywhere near production ready -
> they're proof of concept at best. However, I completely agree with your
> original premise that Python needs a story on mobile platforms, and I'm
> interested in working on that story. If you go back and read the
> Python-ideas thread from a few months ago, it looks like there was broad
> support for the idea, but it would all hinge on the specifics.
>
> So, that's what I've been working on. Since I posted to Python-ideas in
> October, I've been focussing on getting the patches necessary for Python's
> own build system. However, I've been distracted by work life etc, so I
> haven't made as much progress as I would have liked. I'm hoping the
> Christmas/New year break will give me a chance to make some headway.
>
> As far as Kivy goes - I have tinkered with Kivy; I've even used Kivy's
> tools as a starting point for some of my own efforts. However, to me, Kivy
> is focussing too far up the stack - their toolchain appears to be based on
> getting *Kivy* working on mobile, not *Python*. This is an entirely
> reasonable approach if Kivy is what you want at the end of the day - but
> it's not what *I* want. I've been taking a much more atomic approach. The
> Kivy toolchain is also anchored in old versions of Python 2; something that
> definitely needs to be addressed.
>
> Ultimately, I want to get these patches in to Python's trunk; but I'm
> still a way off that being a reality. If you're interested in collaborating
> and helping me get to that point, please get in touch - there's plenty of
> work to do, and if you're keen to help, I'm happy to share what I've got so
> far.
>
> Yours,
> Russ Magee %-)
>
> On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 6:34 PM, Fetchinson . <fetchinson at googlemail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all, maybe the best list would be python-dev but I don't dare
>> waking the sleeping lions there :)
>>
>> So my question is this: is there a coherent mobile strategy among core
>> dev people? I mean you guys release python for linux/macos/windows and
>> the question is if there are any plans to do the same for a mobile
>> platform. It doesn't have to be android or ios just anything that the
>> core dev team chooses and sticks with.
>>
>> I've been developing python apps for smartphones (mostly hobby
>> projects though) using sl4a but that seems like is dead. Now people
>> suggest me using kivy which seems to be alive but who knows how long.
>> There are some other projects qpython, etc, which are small and
>> equally not so reliable at least looking from the outside. Is kivy now
>> an officially blessed distribution? Since google was so integral to
>> both python (through employing Guido) and android I'd think it would
>> make sense for google to have an official python environment for
>> android in cooperation with the python dev team.
>>
>> Does the PSF has an opinion on this? It would be great if there would
>> be something for mobile phones that we could rely on not going away
>> just as with linux/macos/windows.
>>
>> Or there are some issues which preclude this from the start?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Daniel
>>
>>
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