[Python-ideas] Show deprecation warnings in the interactive interpreter

[Nathaniel Smith]

On Feb 26, 2015 6:20 PM, "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen at xemacs.org> wrote:
>
> Nathaniel Smith writes:
>  > On Feb 26, 2015 9:33 AM, "Terry Reedy" <tjreedy at udel.edu> wrote:
>  > > On 2/26/2015 11:15 AM, random832 at fastmail.us wrote:
>
>  > >> Your argument seems to boil down to "no-one uses the prompt", so
why not
>  > >> just get rid of it?
>
>  > > [Hardly.]
>
>  > [I]f this is not an accurate summary of what you're trying to
>  > argue, then I honestly have no idea what you are trying to argue.
>
> I'm surprised at "no idea".  He's been clear throughout that because
> there are *many* alternative interactive interfaces besides the
> CPython interpreter itself, to be truly effective the warnings need to
> be propagated to those, and it's not automatic because most of them
> don't use the interactive interpreter.  IIUC, at least in IDLE it's
> already possible to get them with some fiddling.  Since it's debatable
> how important this is to interactive prompt users (especially those on
> POSIX systems), he thinks that to be effective it requires much more
> to change than just the CPython interpreter, and

Right, I think everyone can agree with all that.

> since it may annoy
> more users than would be helped, he doesn't seem to think the change
> is justified.

... But afaict Terry has not said one word of this; either I'm missing
something or you're doing the same thing as random832 and filling in the
gaps with guesses. Which is totally reasonable, natural language
understanding always requires filling in gaps like this, and I'm not
annoyed at anyone or anything
(maybe my last message came across as somewhat hostile? My apologies if
so). Really I just think Terry should realize that they haven't been as
clear as they think and elaborate, because I actually would like to know
what they're saying.

-n
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