[Python-ideas] Rewriting the build system (part 2)

Mark Lawrence breamoreboy at yahoo.co.uk
Mon Mar 16 21:04:59 CET 2015


On 16/03/2015 19:24, Ryan Gonzalez wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 1:33 PM, Stefan Krah
> <stefan at bytereef.org
> <mailto:stefan at bytereef.org>> wrote:
>
>     Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19 at ...> writes:
>     > I hate most tools that ship with configure scripts because 70% of the time
>     some stupid test does some stupid thing wrong and gives the worst
>     errors,
>     29% of the time the configure system doesn't pick up my options
>     correctly,
>     and 1% of the time it actually *works*.
>
>     That's just not true.  Also, the small build issue that triggered
>     this thread is already tracked here:
>
>     http://bugs.python.org/issue22625
>
>
> You've evidently had better luck than I usually have.

Luck doesn't enter in to it.  More likely a bad workan always blames his 
tools?

>
>
>     It seems more productive to me to fix that rather than rewrite the
>     build system.  Users don't have an unlimited tolerance for pointless
>     churn.
>
>
> Lots and lots of projects have moved from autotools to about everything
> else.
>
> It's slow, annoying, and generates huge files (the 5k-line configure.ac
> <http://configure.ac> generates a 17k-line configure script). And
> largely pointless, since nowadays few like it anymore.
>

Perhaps everybody should move to MSVC, that way at least everything 
would be consistent :)

-- 
My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask
what you can do for our language.

Mark Lawrence



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