[Python-ideas] Partial operator (and 'third-party methods' and 'piping') [was Re: Function composition (was no subject)]
Koos Zevenhoven
koos.zevenhoven at aalto.fi
Sun May 10 23:41:59 CEST 2015
Hi Gregory,
Did you look at the new version carefully? If I understand the problem
you are describing (mentioned also by Steven), my previous version had
that issue, but the new one does not. That is why I added examples with
callable arguments :).
-- Koos
On 11.5.2015 0:23, Gregory Salvan wrote:
> In my opinion, this syntax make problems when your arguments are
> functions/callables.
> And if you code in a functionnal paradigm it is quite common to inject
> functions in arguments otherwise how would you do polymorphism ?
>
> The only way I see to distinguish cases is to have tuples, but syntax
> is quite strange.
>
> instead of : arg->eggs(b)->spam(c)
> my_partial = (arg, b)->eggs->(c, )->spam
>
> Then how would you call my_partial ?
> For example, if you have:
> def eggs(a, b, c)...
> def spam(d, e)...
>
> my_partial(c, e) or my_partial(c)(e) ?
>
>
>
> 2015-05-10 22:06 GMT+02:00 Koos Zevenhoven <koos.zevenhoven at aalto.fi
> <mailto:koos.zevenhoven at aalto.fi>>:
>
> Reading the recent emails in the function composition thread
> started by Ivan, I realized that my below sketch for a composition
> operator would be better if it did not actually do function
> composition ;). Instead, -> would be quite powerful as 'just' a
> partial operator -- perhaps even more powerful, as I demonstrate
> below. However, this is not an argument against @ composition,
> which might in fact play together with this quite nicely.
>
> This allows some nice things with multi-argument functions too.
>
> I realize that it may be unlikely that a new operator would be
> added, but here it is anyway, as food for thought. (With an
> existing operator, I suspect it would be even less likely, because
> of precedence rules : )
>
> So, -> would be an operator with a precedence similar to
> .attribute access (but lower than .attribute):
>
> # The simple definition of what it does:
> arg->func # equivalent to functools.partial(func, arg)
>
> This would allow for instance:
> arg -> spam() -> cheese(kind = 'gouda') -> eggs()
>
> which would be equivalent to eggs(cheese(spam(arg), kind = 'gouda'))
>
> Or even together together with the proposed @ composition:
> rms = root @ mean @ square->map # for an iterable non-numpy
> argument
>
> And here's something I find quite interesting. Together with
> @singledispatch from 3.4 (or possibly an enhanced version using
> type annotations in the future?), one could add 'third-party
> methods' to classes in other libraries without monkey patching. A
> dummy example:
>
> from numpy import array
> my_list = [1,2,3]
> my_array = array(my_list)
> my_mean = my_array.mean() # This currently works in numpy
>
> from rmslib import rms
> my_rms = my_array->rms() # efficient rms for numpy arrays
> my_other_rms = my_list->rms() # rms that works on any iterable
>
> One would be able to distinguish between calls to methods and
> 'third-party methods' based on whether . or -> is used for
> accessing them, which I think is a good thing. Also, third-party
> methods would be less likely to mutate the object, just like
> func(obj) is less likely to mutate obj than obj.method().
>
> See more examples below. I converted my examples from last night
> to this IMO better version, because at least some of them would
> still be relevant.
>
> On 10.5.2015 2:07, Koos Zevenhoven wrote:
>
> On 10.5.2015 1:03, Gregory Salvan wrote:
>
> Nobody convinced by arrow operator ?
>
> like: arg -> spam -> eggs -> cheese
> or cheese <- eggs <- spam <- arg
>
>
>
> I like | a lot because of the pipe analogy. However, having a
> new operator for this could solve some issues about operator
> precedence.
>
> Today, I sketched one possible version that would use a new ..
> operator. I'll explain what it would do (but with your ->
> instead of my ..)
>
> Here, the operator (.. or ->) would have a higher precedence
> than function calls () but a lower precedence than attribute
> access (obj.attr).
>
> First, with single-argument functions spam, eggs and cheese,
> and a non-function arg:
>
> arg->eggs->spam->cheese() # equivalent to
> cheese(spam(eggs(arg)))
>
>
> With -> as a partial operator, this would instead be:
>
> arg->eggs()->spam()->cheese() # equivalent to
> cheese(spam(eggs(arg)))
>
> eggs->spam->cheese # equivalent to lambda arg:
> cheese(spam(eggs(arg)))
>
>
> With -> as a partial operator this could be:
>
> lambda arg: arg->eggs()->spam()->cheese()
>
>
> Then, if spam and eggs both took two arguments; eggs(arg1,
> arg2), spam(arg1, arg2)
>
> arg->eggs # equivalent to partial(eggs, arg)
> eggs->spam(a, b, c) # equivalent to spam(eggs(a, b), c)
>
>
> With -> as a partial operator, the first one would work, and the
> second would become:
>
> eggs(a,b)->spam(c) # equivalent to spam(eggs(a, b), c)
>
> arg->eggs->spam(b,c) # equivalent to spam(eggs(arg, b), c)
>
>
> This would become:
>
> arg->eggs(b)->spam(c) # equivalent to spam(eggs(arg, b), c)
>
> Note that this would be quite flexible in partial 'piping' of
> multi-argument functions.
>
> So you could think of -> as an extended partial operator. And
> this would naturally generalize to functions with even more
> arguments. The arguments would always be fed in the same order
> as in the equivalent function call, which makes for a nice
> rule of thumb. However, I suppose one would usually avoid
> combinations that are difficult to understand.
>
> Some examples that this would enable:
>
> # Example 1
> from numpy import square, mean, sqrt
> rms = square->mean->sqrt # I think this order is fine
> because it is not @
>
>
> This would become:
>
> def rms(arr):
> return arr->square()->mean()->sqrt()
>
> # Example 2 (both are equivalent)
> spam(args)->eggs->cheese() # the shell-syntax analogy that
> Steven mentioned.
>
>
> This would be:
>
> spam(args)->eggs()->cheese()
>
> Of course the shell piping analogy would be quite far, because it
> looks so different.
>
> # Example 3
> # Last but not least, we would finally have this :)
> some_sequence->len()
> some_object->isinstance(MyType)
>
>
> And:
>
> func->map(seq)
> func->reduce(seq)
>
> -- Koos
>
>
>
>
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