[Python-ideas] Cmake as build system

Andrew Barnert abarnert at yahoo.com
Sat May 23 04:08:31 CEST 2015


Sorry, meant to include this in my previous reply, but I accidentally cut and didn't paste...

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> On May 22, 2015, at 17:08, André Freitas <p.andrefreitas at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> Thanks for sharing Ryan Gonzalez :)
> 
> It just could be another alternative and not a replacement of autotools.

If the problem is that the autotools build system is a nightmare to maintain, how is having two completely different complex build systems that have to be kept perfectly in sync not going to be an even bigger nightmare?

> Not only about the cross-platform feature of Cmake but the integration with modern IDEs. I really see an improvement in productivity using the IDE debugger (e.g Clion) instead of using prints everywhere (http://programmers.stackexchange.com/questions/78152/real-programmers-use-debuggers).

Why did you link to a question that was migrated and then closed as not constructive, and that was written to argue that debuggers are useless, and whose contrary answers only talk about command-line debugging rather than whether a GUI wrapper can help debugging? That seems to argue against your case, not for it...

> 2015-05-23 0:48 GMT+01:00 Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19 at gmail.com>:
>> HAHAHA!!
>> 
>> Good luck! I've raised this issue before. Twice. Autotools sucks. And makes cross-compiling a pain in the neck. Bottom line was:
>> 
>> - C++ is a big dependency
>> - The autotools build system has been tested already on lots and lots and lots of platforms
>> - Nobody has even implemented an alternative build system for Python 3 yet (python-cmake is only for Python 2)
>> - No one can agree on a best build system (for instance, I hate CMake!)
>> 
>> 
>>> On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 6:08 PM, André Freitas <p.andrefreitas at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> What you think about using Cmake build system? 
>>> 
>>> I see advantages such as:
>>> - Cross-plataform;
>>> - Supported in Clion IDE (amazing C/C++ IDE, breakpoints, etc);
>>> - Simple and easy to use (Zen of Python :) https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0020/ );
>>> 
>>> I was actually seeing a discussion in python-commiters about Windows 7 buildbots failing. Found that someone already had the same idea but don't know if it was shared here: http://www.vtk.org/Wiki/BuildingPythonWithCMake
>>> 
>>> Please share your thoughts.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> André Freitas
>>> 
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>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Ryan
>> [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than your program. Something’s wrong.
>> http://kirbyfan64.github.io/
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