[Python-ideas] Shuffled

[Ethan Furman]

On 09/06/2016 11:15 AM, Sven R. Kunze wrote:
> On 06.09.2016 18:32, Steven D'Aprano wrote:

>> If your only argument is to continue to insist that Python should have a
>> shuffled() function and you'll write a patch, it will go no where. First
>> you have to convince people that the patch is needed.
>
> He already convinced some people. Just not some venerable Python devs,
>  which doesn't necessarily mean something at all.

It means it's not going to happen.

> Their response: "Oh, I don't need it, let's close it."
> Arek: "But I need it."
>
> So, who's right now?

Everyone:

- if the python devs say it doesn't need to be in the stdlib, it's
    not going in.
- if Arek (or anyone) needs it, then Arek (and those who need it)
    can write it and put it in their own personal utility library.

> I would suggest not being so protective. It's community project after all.

No, it isn't.  It is Guido's project.

>  Maybe, the patch will help him understand that it's not so easy, or other
>  people will see the benefit after reading it. If the patch isn't worth
>  including, he learned something in the process of creating it.

Sure.  The point is simply that writing and submitting a patch does not grant
automatic acceptance.

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~Ethan~