[Python-ideas] from __pip__ import
אלעזר
elazarg at gmail.com
Mon Sep 19 13:43:18 EDT 2016
Ryan I assume any error could be translated to your version through the
`from ` statement too?
Regarding the rabbit hole, the internet connection and privileges were
required for running this script in the first place. I only suggest giving
the developer - perhaps not a software engineer at all - an easy way not to
require the (possibly inexperienced) user to do it manually.
Put it another way, you a copy-pasted code from SO is not needed to use
only stdlib now.
On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 8:34 PM Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19 at gmail.com> wrote:
> This sounds like a great idea, but I've seen stuff like this done before,
> and it never ends well. You end up with a gargantuan-sized rabbit hole,
> since running a basic script could now involve using an internet connection
> and potentially root permissions.
>
> IF one were to go this route, I prefer bundling a `requirements.txt` into
> the distribution and then doing something like this in the script:
>
> import pkgcheck
> pkgcheck.check_requirements('requirements.txt')
>
> If any of the requirements were missing, then something like this would
> happen:
>
> Traceback (most recent call last):
> ...
> MissingPackageError: This script requires package(s) which are not
> installed: mypackage>=1.0, other_package
>
> That way, you don't get the weird import errors, but you don't have to
> worry about all the subtleties of automatic downloading.
>
> --
> Ryan
> [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than your
> program. Something’s wrong.
> http://kirbyfan64.github.io/
> On Sep 19, 2016 11:26 AM, "אלעזר" <elazarg at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Many proposals to add something to stdlib are rejected here with the
>> suggestion to add such library to pypi first. As noted by someone, pypi is
>> not as reachable as stdlib, and one should install that package first,
>> which many people don't know how. Additionally, there is no natural
>> distinction between 3rd party dependencies and in-project imports (at least
>> in tiny projects).
>>
>> This can be made easier if the first line of the program will declare the
>> required library, and executing it will try to download and install that
>> library if it is not installed yet. Additionally, the 3rd party
>> dependencies will be more explicit, and editors can then allow you to
>> search for them as you type.
>>
>> Of course it is *not* an alternative for real dependency management, but
>> it will ease the burden on small scripts and tiny projects - which today
>> simply break with errors that many users does not understand, instead of
>> simply asking permission to install the dependency.
>>
>> Elazar
>>
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