[Python-ideas] Things that won't change (proposed PEP)

[Brett Cannon]

On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 at 20:05 Nick Coghlan <ncoghlan at gmail.com> wrote:

> On 13 January 2017 at 12:43, Stephen J. Turnbull
> <turnbull.stephen.fw at u.tsukuba.ac.jp> wrote:
> > Mark E. Haase writes:
> >
> >  > I don't think an informational PEP would make threads like Python
> Review
> >  > shorter and/or more productive. The OP clearly didn't do much
> research, so
> >  > it seems unlikely he would read an informational PEP.
> >
> > But just saying "do your research" (which is quite reasonable without
> > the informational PEP) is much less friendly than including the URL to
> > the informational PEP in the kind of "canned response" you suggest.
> > That's what Steven is aiming at.
> >
> > I'm not sure that a PEP is the best format, as the normal PEP process is
> > not a good match for something that is likely to need to be updated as
> > "good syntax" is discovered for ideas formerly considered un-Pythonic
> > and other languages come up with neat new ideas that don't have
> > obvious Pythonic syntax.  Andrew Barnert's blog post (thanks, Chris!)
> >
> http://stupidpythonideas.blogspot.com/2015/05/why-following-idioms-matters.html
> > is a good start, and Nick Coghlan's "Curious Efficiency" blog has
> > related material, I think.  Perhaps pointers to those would be good.
>
> Expanding on https://docs.python.org/devguide/langchanges.html would
> likely be a more useful format than an informational PEP.
>
> As a starting point,
> https://docs.python.org/devguide/faq.html#suggesting-changes should
> likely be consolidated into that page, and the FAQ entry simplified
> into a link to a new subsection on that page.
>

Do realize the FAQ is gutted in the github branch so make sure you look at
that version of the devguide to know what's planned:
https://cpython-devguide.readthedocs.io/en/github/index.html .
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