[Python-ideas] venv *is* provided in the standard Python install on Debian/Ubuntu

[Chris Angelico]

On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 10:29 AM, Nick Coghlan <ncoghlan at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 13 November 2017 at 07:11, Chris Angelico <rosuav at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 6:24 AM, Stephan Houben <stephanh42 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi Antoine,
>>>
>>> The venv module is included,
>>> however the pyvenv script is in a separate package
>>> python3.5-venv .
>>>
>>> By the way, I was totally confused by the following text form the doc.
>>>
>>> https://docs.python.org/3/library/venv.html
>>>
>>> ========
>>> Deprecated since version 3.6: pyvenv was the recommended tool for creating
>>> virtual environments for Python 3.3 and 3.4, and is deprecated in Python
>>> 3.6.
>>>
>>> Changed in version 3.5: The use of venv is now recommended for creating
>>> virtual environments.
>>>
>>> ========
>>
>> Not sure where you're reading that. I'm seeing:
>>
>> """
>> Note
>> The pyvenv script has been deprecated as of Python 3.6 in favor of
>> using python3 -m venv to help prevent any potential confusion as to
>> which Python interpreter a virtual environment will be based on.
>> """
>>
>> I think that's pretty clear. "python3 -m venv env" is the standard and
>> recommended way to spin up a virtual environment.
>
> It's further down in the page, under
> https://docs.python.org/3/library/venv.html#creating-virtual-environments
>
> I think the deprecation notice for pyvenv should just be deleted,
> since it renders like the *module* is deprecated.

Ah, I see it now, thanks.

Agreed; or maybe downgrade it to a parenthetical comment. Focus on
"this is how to do the obvious thing", and only as an afterthought
mention "it used to be done differently" in case someone greps for
pyvenv.

ChrisA