[Python-ideas] Looking for input to help with the pip situation

[Michel Desmoulin]

Le 12/11/2017 à 19:02, Stephan Houben a écrit :
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> 2017-11-12 13:20 GMT+01:00 Paul Moore <p.f.moore at gmail.com
> <mailto:p.f.moore at gmail.com>>:
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>     On 12 November 2017 at 06:19, Michel Desmoulin
>     <desmoulinmichel at gmail.com <mailto:desmoulinmichel at gmail.com>> wrote:
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>     > Well, not exactly. Do you do python -m venv, or py -x.x -m venv or
>     > pythonx -m venv ? Wait, it's not installed by default on debian.
> 
>     Seriously? Debian don't provide venv in the standard Python install?
>     That's just broken.
> 
> 
> I think that it is wrong to think of Debian's "python3" package
> as purporting to provide the "standard Python install".
> 
> This is really more properly though of as the Python *runtime*
> environment, i.e. the minimum stuff you need to run programs
> written in Python.
> 

I think it's wrong to have a different setup on different plateforms.
Python is a portable language. It's also a language you use for quick
scripts and from a lot of non professional devs.

Unifying the python experience and making sure it's easy for beginners
to get started is a very important goal IMO.

Python is actually quite good at it. But we can make it even better.