[Python-ideas] Looking for input to help with the pip situation

[Paul Moore]

On 14 November 2017 at 10:02, Nathaniel Smith <njs at pobox.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 12:56 AM, Paul Moore <p.f.moore at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 14 November 2017 at 03:08, Nathaniel Smith <njs at pobox.com> wrote:
>>> On Nov 13, 2017 6:47 PM, "Nick Coghlan" <ncoghlan at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> and a pip.bat with the equivalent contents on Windows?
>>>> (Bonus: maybe this would fix the problem with upgrading pip on
>>>> Windows?)
>>>
>>> Depending on how the batch file was written, I think the answer to
>>> that is "maybe":
>>> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/2888976/how-to-make-bat-file-delete-it-self-after-completion/20333152#20333152
>>>
>>>
>>> Sigh.
>>
>> Batch files are not suitable for this task. The wrappers have to be
>> executables. See
>> http://paul-moores-notes.readthedocs.io/en/latest/wrappers.html for a
>> detailed analysis I did some time ago.
>
> Ah, interesting. My reason for suggesting it in the first place
> because I was hoping to avoid paying the process spawn overhead twice,
> but it sounds like this specific trick is misguided all around :-).

It doesn't even save the process overhead if you're running Powershell
as your main shell, or running pip from a terminal window in your
editor/IDE, ...

I really wish Windows *did* provide a usable "shell script"
implementation (of any form) but sadly it simply doesn't.

Paul