[Python-ideas] grouping / dict of lists

Michael Selik mike at selik.org
Fri Jun 29 13:53:34 EDT 2018


Hello,

I've drafted a PEP for an easier way to construct groups of elements from a
sequence. https://github.com/selik/peps/blob/master/pep-9999.rst

As a teacher, I've found that grouping is one of the most awkward tasks for
beginners to learn in Python. While this proposal requires understanding a
key-function, in my experience that's easier to teach than the nuances of
setdefault or defaultdict. Defaultdict requires passing a factory function
or class, similar to a key-function. Setdefault is awkwardly named and
requires a discussion of references and mutability. Those topics are
important and should be covered, but I'd like to let them sink in
gradually. Grouping often comes up as a question on the first or second
day, especially for folks transitioning from Excel.

I've tested this proposal on actual students (no students were harmed
during experimentation) and found that the majority appreciate it. Some are
even able to guess what it does (would do) without any priming.

Thanks for your time,
-- Michael






On Thu, Jun 28, 2018 at 8:38 AM Michael Selik <mike at selik.org> wrote:

> On Thu, Jun 28, 2018 at 8:25 AM Nicolas Rolin <nicolas.rolin at tiime.fr>
> wrote:
>
>> I use list and dict comprehension a lot, and a problem I often have is to
>> do the equivalent of a group_by operation (to use sql terminology).
>>
>> For example if I have a list of tuples (student, school) and I want to
>> have the list of students by school the only option I'm left with is to
>> write
>>
>>     student_by_school = defaultdict(list)
>>     for student, school in student_school_list:
>>         student_by_school[school].append(student)
>>
>
> Thank you for bringing this up. I've been drafting a proposal for a better
> grouping / group-by operation for a little while. I'm not quite ready to
> share it, as I'm still researching use cases.
>
> I'm +1 that this task needs improvement, but -1 on this particular
> solution.
>
>
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