[Python-ideas] Allow mutable builtin types (optionally)

Eloi Gaudry Eloi.Gaudry at fft.be
Mon May 7 11:37:59 EDT 2018


I'd like to bring back this discussion (from 2005, by Greg):

Briefly, non-heap types cannot have their
attributes changed by Python code. This makes sense for python builtin
types, but not for the types defined in extension/modules.

As we have been using this patch for the very same reasons and for more
than 10 years, I think it might make sense to reconsider the discussion
that Greg started.

The main question at that time was "why not using a heap type instead
?" (because heap-type do not have this limitation).

But I think that the right question could have been "why imposing such
a restriction on non-heap types as defined in (non Python core)
extensions ?".

I mean, to my knowledge, there is no reason why a type should be
allocated on the heap (https://docs.python.org/2/c-api/typeobj.html) to
be able to change its attributes at Python level.

I'm not saying that all non-heap types should be able to do so, just
that it would make sense to allow this behavior, as an option (bit

At the implementation level, the changes needed are really limited
(about a few lines):
- Include/object.h
- Objects/typeobject.c:


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