[Python-ideas] Contracts in python -- a report & next steps

Nathaniel Smith njs at pobox.com
Thu Oct 25 19:54:06 EDT 2018

On Thu, Oct 25, 2018, 14:44 Marko Ristin-Kaufmann <marko.ristin at gmail.com>

> Nathaniel Smith wrote:
>> In your position, I wouldn't be talking to the core devs; I'd be
>> writing blog posts to proselytize the advantages of contracts, working
>> with popular projects that are interested in adopting them, writing
>> case studies, going to meetups, submitting talks to pycons, that sort
>> of thing. If you want contracts to become a widely-used thing, you
>> have to convince people to use them. The core team doesn't have a
>> magic wand that can short-circuit that process.
> I thought python-ideas is an open list to generally discuss ideas, not the
> core dev list (isn't that python-dev)? That's why I wrote here (after being
> forwarded from python-dev list).
> I agree that these efforts you mention would be worthwhile. Implementation
> of a (prototype) library and participating in the discussions on this mail
> list are the maximum effort I can put up at the moment. Maybe in 2019 I
> could manage to go to the local Python summit.

Python-ideas is for ideas for changing the python language or standard
library. And the subthread I was replying to was about adding contracts
support to the stdlib, so you're in the right place for that discussion. I
was trying to explain why trying to add contract support to the stdlib
doesn't make much sense right now. And if you switch your focus to trying
to recruit users and collaborators, like I recommend, then python-ideas
isn't the best place to do that. Most of your potential users aren't here!


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