[Python-ideas] Retire or reword the "Beautiful is better than ugly" Zen clause

Franklin? Lee leewangzhong+python at gmail.com
Mon Sep 17 04:38:58 EDT 2018

On Sun, Sep 16, 2018 at 2:04 PM Antoine Pitrou <solipsis at pitrou.net> wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Sep 2018 13:32:26 -0400
> "Franklin? Lee"
> <leewangzhong+python at gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Sun, Sep 16, 2018 at 4:14 AM Antoine Pitrou <solipsis at pitrou.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > Yeah, right.
> > >
> > > You know, when I was pointing out Calvin not being very brave by
> > > attacking a bunch of people without giving names, my aim was to merely
> > > point out how dishonest and disrespectful his attitude his.  *Not* to
> > > encourage someone to turn his post into more of a clusterfuck of
> > > personal attacks.
> >
> > Please give an example of an attack I made above. I see accusations,
> > made against adults, regarding actions.
> Why would I?  As you admit, you are not countering arguments, but
> accusing people.  I have better to do than to waste my time in this
> kind of game.  This mailing-list is not supposed to be a playground for
> angry people.

I made accusations and explained them. You accused me of making
personal attacks, but won't back it up when challenged, saying that
it'd be a waste of time. If it's not important, why make the
accusation in the first place?

I have thought about making arguments and explanations, but erased
them because it could distract from this point. I'm far less concerned
about the proposal (in either direction) than about the treatment of a
new user and a controversial proposal. The harm of that is here and

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