[Python-ideas] Moving to another forum system where

Chris Barker chris.barker at noaa.gov
Fri Sep 21 11:11:20 EDT 2018

On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 1:24 PM James Lu <jamtlu at gmail.com> wrote:

> One of the reasons Guido left was the insane volume of emails he had to
> read on Python-ideas.

You'd have to ask Guido directly, but I don't think so. It wasn't the
volume, but the nature and timing of the discussion that was so difficult.

It went on for a LONG time, with many, many circular arguments, and people
commenting on issues that has already been brought up and maybe resolved.
Then the kicker -- after a decision was made, there were very strong
objections -- the whole process was rather ugly.

One can certainly make a good case that a different system for having such
discussion might have made it much better -- but I'm not so sure. But maybe
it's a good case-study t guide a decision.

Frankly, I'm more concerned about how an important technical discussion
like that goes than I am about than issues like the recent "beautiful -
ugly" thread.

Maybe we need something in-between python-idea and python-dev -- a place to
discuss "serious" proposals, where "serious" means somewhat fleshed out,
and with the support of at least a couple key people. One of the problems
with the assignment expression discussion is that it got pretty far on
python-ideas, then moved to python-dev, where is was further discussed (and
there were parallel thread on the two lists) -- but the two list have
overlapping, but different members, so some folks were surprised at the



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