[Python-ideas] "slur" vs "insult"?
rymg19 at gmail.com
Fri Sep 21 11:23:25 EDT 2018
Kinda OT, but I believe the connotation is that slur is use of the word,
whereas an insult is use directed at someone.
For instance, if someone is having a conversation where they use the
n-word, it's a racial slur. If they directly call someone that, it's an
On Fri, Sep 21, 2018, 9:45 AM Antoine Pitrou <solipsis at pitrou.net> wrote:
> For the record I was surprised to see the word "slur" pop up
> quite often recently, while I'd only heard "insult" before. I
> looked it up and it doesn't help that the French translation seems to
> be the same in both cases (it's "insulte").
> Then I came upon this thread where someone pretty much asks the same
> and the comments there are interesting as to how complicated and
> difficult to grasp the cultural landscape of linguistic taboos really
> On Fri, 21 Sep 2018 15:55:10 +0200
> "Philipp A." <flying-sheep at web.de> wrote:
> > The main clause differentiating bad, weaponizable CoCs from good ones is
> > "Assume good faith"
> > Everything will be OK if good faith can reasonably be assumed (E.g. when
> > someone uses a word which is only offensive based on context)
> > On the other hand, e.g. obvious racial slurs never have a place on a
> > discussion board about a programming language. How can one possibly say
> > them in good faith?
> > Rhodri James <rhodri at kynesim.co.uk> schrieb am Fr., 21. Sep. 2018 um
> > 15:46 Uhr:
> > > On 20/09/18 19:56, Brett Cannon wrote:
> > > > Based on the WG's recommendation and after discussing it with Titus,
> > > > decision has been made to ban Jacco from python-ideas. Trivializing
> > > > assault, using the n-word, and making inappropriate comments about
> > > > someone's mental stability are all uncalled for and entirely
> > > to
> > > > carry on a reasonable discourse of conversation that remains
> welcoming to
> > > > others.
> > >
> > > Not a challenge to the ban in any way, but I feel the need to repeat
> > > what I said about banning words. The moment you create that taboo, you
> > > give the word power. That's the exact opposite of what you want to do.
> > > It's the intent with which the word is used that matters. I've heard
> > > all sorts of words used as insults -- "special", anyone? -- and many of
> > > the same words used innocently or affectionately.
> > >
> > > Banning bad or insulting behaviour is fine. Banning words is a bad
> > > to go down.
> > >
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