[Python-ideas] Clearer communication

Abe Dillon abedillon at gmail.com
Fri Feb 1 17:59:54 EST 2019


[Steven D'Aprano]

> The bottom line is that email can be sorted, filtered, shuffled, sliced
> and diced in an almost infinite number of ways. If your email client
> isn't good enough, blame the tool, not the technology.


There's no reason a forum system couldn't accommodate sorting, filtering,
shuffling, slicing and dicing.
It seems the only problem is the lack of tools.

[Steven D'Aprano]

> The link was intended as a starting point for people to do their own
> research, not a finishing point. But the main things from my perspective
> are:
> - stable web URLs for archives;
> - better searching;
> - a web interface that allows posting as well as reading posts.


Thanks! I followed the link and was pretty lost by about half-way through
the page. This clears things up!

One thing I will say is that Reddit's search functionality has been pretty
useless in my experience.
It would be nice to have a useful search.

On Fri, Feb 1, 2019 at 4:27 PM Steven D'Aprano <steve at pearwood.info> wrote:

> On Fri, Feb 01, 2019 at 01:01:06PM -0600, Abe Dillon wrote:
>
> [...]
> > 2) You can control, to some degree, what gets to the top of your feed. In
> > an email list, it's based on who posted last which seems hardly an
> > improvement.
>
> In any serious, non-toy mail client you can sort your mail by any of
> Date, Size, Sender, Receiver, Thread or Subject line.
>
> More powerful mail clients should allow automatic filtering of messages
> into subfolders, hiding or muting threads, and displaying or hiding
> messages based on text searches. I've seen some that also allow you to
> add your own custom topics, like "Work", "Personal" etc.
>
> The bottom line is that email can be sorted, filtered, shuffled, sliced
> and diced in an almost infinite number of ways. If your email client
> isn't good enough, blame the tool, not the technology.
>
>
> [...]
> > > In the future this list may be migrated to Mailman 3 which includes a
> > > more modern web-forum-like interface as well as email.
> > >
> > > http://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/userguide.html
> >
> >
> > Can you summarize what mailman3 brings to the table? The docs aren't very
> > clear and have a lot of preamble.
>
> The link was intended as a starting point for people to do their own
> research, not a finishing point. But the main things from my perspective
> are:
>
> - stable web URLs for archives;
> - better searching;
> - a web interface that allows posting as well as reading posts.
>
>
> My guess is that most people who aren't happy with email will care about
> the web interface, Hyperkitty.
>
> https://pypi.org/project/HyperKitty/
>
>
> https://duffy.fedorapeople.org/presentations/libreplanet%202014/Hyperkitty2.pdf
>
>
> Demo: https://lists.stg.fedoraproject.org/archives/
>
>
> --
> Steve
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