[Python-ideas] Clearer communication

[Abe Dillon]

[Marcos Eliziario]

> Email is based on open standards with multiple implementations, most of
> them open source, that you can run basically wherever you want.
> Reddit is a product from a company, with a privately controlled API, and
> that may not even be here tomorrow, and it is not based on open standards.
> What happens if Reddit goes bankrupt tomorrow?


That's a good point. I suggested Reddit because it has a pretty extensive
feature list and is fairly simple to set-up and try. Maybe we could make
/r/python_thoughts instead of /r/python_ideas to denote the separation
(i.e. nothing posted on /r/python_thoughts will be automatically shared on
the python-ideas email list or vice-versa) or maybe there's some forum
software based on open standards that has a similar feature set? Or maybe
there are no open standards for internet forums, in which case, how would
one go about advocating for such a thing?

[Marcos Eliziario]

>  Simple is good. Email is simple.


Simple *can* be good, but it *can* also get in the way of fruitful
conversation...

On Fri, Feb 1, 2019 at 5:26 PM Marcos Eliziario <marcos.eliziario at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Email is based on open standards with multiple implementations, most of
> them open source, that you can run basically wherever you want.
> Reddit is a product from a company, with a privately controlled API, and
> that may not even be here tomorrow, and it is not based on open standards.
> What happens if Reddit goes bankrupt tomorrow?
>
> And let's not forget that mailing lists have a small barrier to entry.
> Moving this list to a forum would likely become an "eternal september" kind
> of event.
>
> Simple is good. Email is simple.
>
>
>
> Em sex, 1 de fev de 2019 às 21:17, Abe Dillon <abedillon at gmail.com>
> escreveu:
>
>> [Chris Angelico]
>>
>>> With emails, you get your choice of tools. With web forum systems, you
>>> get the forum host's choice of tools.
>>
>>
>> There are many 3rd party tools for interacting with Reddit.
>> It's all just data behind an API. There's no reason you couldn't have a
>> choice of tools for a forum system.
>> The biggest difference I see is that email APIs are more standardized.
>> Maybe we should push for an open standard for forum-style communication.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 1, 2019 at 5:03 PM Chris Angelico <rosuav at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, Feb 2, 2019 at 10:00 AM Abe Dillon <abedillon at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > [Steven D'Aprano]
>>> >>
>>> >> The bottom line is that email can be sorted, filtered, shuffled,
>>> sliced
>>> >> and diced in an almost infinite number of ways. If your email client
>>> >> isn't good enough, blame the tool, not the technology.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > There's no reason a forum system couldn't accommodate sorting,
>>> filtering, shuffling, slicing and dicing.
>>> > It seems the only problem is the lack of tools.
>>>
>>> With emails, you get your choice of tools. With web forum systems, you
>>> get the forum host's choice of tools.
>>>
>>> ChrisA
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