[Python-ideas] Consistency in naming [was Re: ...ALL CAPS] (off-list)

Carl Smith carl.input at gmail.com
Mon Feb 18 11:52:20 EST 2019

I shouldn't let it bother me, but that "Sent from my iPhone" cruft really
gets under my skin.
-- Carl Smith
carl.input at gmail.com

On Mon, 4 Feb 2019 at 11:17, Paul Moore <p.f.moore at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 4 Feb 2019 at 05:36, Christopher Barker <pythonchb at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > This is getting pretty off toipic, but I want to point out hat as a
> rule, Python has been critisised more for having too MUCH cnage than too
> little over the last few years:
> [...]
> > Finally, what the heck is wrong with datetime.now ?
> Surely what's wrong is the fact that it adds another item to the list
> of changes that people will complain is "too much"? The conservatism
> in Python's development is not a result of the core devs being change
> averse, or because of a policy of blocking change. Rather it's because
> *the user community* reacts so strongly when we change things, so that
> we feel that stability is what our users want, and try to achieve that
> while still balancing the need for the language to grow and develop.
> In a list like this, which represents only a tiny fraction of Python's
> user community, it's easy to misjudge the appetite Python's users have
> for change, because this is a self-selecting group of people who are
> interested in change. That's why the pushback on *any* proposal made
> here is to ask what benefits it gives, and why in the absence of good
> arguments for a change, "the status quo wins".
> Paul
> PS Personally, I'd love to add a lot of the ideas discussed in this
> list (although I'm "meh" about datetime.now, it's at best a minor
> annoyance). But with my "python developer" hat on I have to look
> beyond that and try to help proposers develop a good case for their
> suggestions (if indeed they do have sufficient merit). Just saying
> "yay, that sounds cool" doesn't do that, even if it's my personal
> instinct.
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